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RE: The Downvote Proposal 👎 A Solution To The Flag Crisis 🚩

in #steemit7 years ago

My concern is more about bots and vote selling services offered even by some witnesses than personal vigilante activity of some large stake holders.

With the downvote the community is more likely to reach consensus of exceptable content. That consensus is likely to change over time in relation to the active stake holders. That is not undifferent than any community.

Even the most harsh of downvoting does not remove the offending content from the blockchain, so can we really call it censorship?

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Yes we can, it is censorship if I take your book you've published and is sitting on the front shelf and I take it and put it at the back because I didn't like it, not because it shouldn't be there. So it is censorship to harassingly lower someone's reputation because of personal preference because their content will be hidden. Witnesses shouldn't be selling either yes that is something else that should be addressed. For now my concern is solving the flagging crisis. For example if a whale came along and saw this thread and doesn't want it gaining any motion they flag me until my rep is 0 and even though I only help the community, they'd ruin me. It could be done in mere minutes. It's too easy and normalized

... and another large stakeholder could come along and reverse that. It looks unfair if you are on the wrong side of the larger of stake holder(s). Guess we can agree to disagree the use of the word censorship.

That is true, they could. But they very well might not, and that is the case in a lot I'm in SteemCleaners and Feezepeach discords and they get tons of false flags and harassment or whales ruining people for cursing or having NSFW content, which is biased, unfair, and in a way censorship because flags are meant for abuse not for personal values. Like a religious whale can't go around downvoting atheists for example etc. I say can't, but really I mean they shouldn't. There are no actual guidelines aside from the undocumented ones the whales make up when they feel like it. How were these people able to know these imaginary rules. I'm thinking long term here. We are over 1 million users. We do not shine a good light if you have to go through a ton of work to repair your accounts from harassment of "experienced" members who you would otherwise expect guidance from not to be harassed by.

My point is that excepted norms is a part of the human social experience. They will change over time. To make such an evolution natural there will be a need of cleaning up after accounts show inactivity.

The biggest one is likely the held votes in inactive witness accounts. They would be all witnesses marked in red text at the following link....

https://steemian.info/witnesses

Such inactive deadwood makes it more difficult for new witnesses to make it to the top 100 let alone the sacred 20.

Discussions should be made to perhaps remove downvotes once the originating account is deemed inactive.

Yeah I said all that in this article or maybe my previous, downvotes, dealing with inactivity, lack of communication amongst others

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