I knew what you meant. It's all good. It is different now though. I haven't been afraid to hit that reset button in life. Feels kinda like that.

Damn near impossible to get to know Ned and Dan while they were behind the wall of public figure persona. But when you're surrounded by literally thousands of talented creatives, writers, producers, and the rest of this long list, that public figure persona doesn't really place them on a pedestal, because we all have one.