RE: There Is An Epidemic Among Us!
i cite all the photos and quotations i use. i think there are bots that call you on it if you don't. are you talking about citing everything we have learned throughout our whole lives? it would be near impossible to cite all of the sources that came together out of thousands of books to form all of the thoughts that i use in conversation every day. socrates said, "the beginning of wisdom is the definition of terms." now, that citation is not quite accurate. socrates was born in about 470 bc and died in 399 bc, the greek that was spoken then is not what is known as greek today. i don't speak greek, do i need to cite the people who translated this to english so i could read it? at some point we need to be able to communicate without getting lost in the weeds. the onus of proof is on the person making the claim, fine, but can you imagine taking every statement you make in friendly conversation back to first principles and proving it forward from there? it would be stifling, bound and gagged. this might be a symptom of control issues. i'll have to get back to you with citations. if you doubt, look it up. it is easier than ever before, if you trust the citations on the internet.
"there are bots that call you on it if you don't..." yes there are bots that will call you on it, but they miss a lot... If you go to the new posts section, 9 out of 10 posts coming out don't properly cite their information or the images they are using... which implies the images and information is their own.
There is no need to cite every day language, but when people are stating facts and presenting them as their own it becomes a problem... especially when money is earned off of it
To your comment, no I can't image citing everything we say, but that isn't really what we are talking about here. Interesting thought though..
what is the point? i have spent the last 30 years creating actual things. i don't get royalties every time someone uses one of the pieces of furniture that i created. i don't get paid every time someone uses one of the toys i made, et cetera. if enough of us stop worrying what other people are doing and start doing the right thing ourselves, maybe, we can begin to find some equity in this world. i have had one job after another sold out from under me to be done poorly by the chinese. at least people get to pay less for poor quality crap that is often broken before it comes out of the box. now we have lost a couple of generations of knowledge that is required to create and sustain civilization, but at least we got some cheap crap. if people aren't willing to pay for something, either it is not worth it or people don't understand value. there is no reason to stifle the rest of us because some people want the world to fail. people who want to endlessly get paid for something they did, once, are just resting on their laurels. we all have access to the vast amounts of information that is the aggregate intellectual property of mankind. if someone wants to, and are ingenious enough, they can create something that people find valuable enough to pay for. there will always be wreckers and thieves. this is something i understand intimately. if all the people commenting here put their energy into learning or making, what could we not accomplish? yes, i recognize the potential irony here. i am commenting here to exercise my long atrophying writing skills not used for anyone but myself, lo these many years. i'm enjoying the translation of thoughts, to persuasive argument. sometimes i find that i come across not quite clearly or somehow incompletely. this is where the desire for practice is born. i don't see many others here to learn. they seem to only want to complain or ridicule. i find that even my meager writing is more of an exploration of ideas than much of the rest of what i am finding here. i wish to find more people of ideas, not complainers, wreckers and thieves. i do not think i will be here on steemit much longer. i'm not sure that the problem lies in failure to cite sources as much as it lies in the lack of desire to create. if you are interested look at my posts. please don't upvote unless you find something of value. i need to know what to make more of and what is trash. if you find examples about which your post speaks, and you will, i would like examples. I've been working in trades full of ignorant men. In twenty years i've not met one person in the trades who knows what the pythagorean theorem is, let alone used any form of citation. i fall into the same traps as does any man. i aspire to do better.
There was a lot in here... I'll take a look at some of your posts though. The best thing you can do is write about what you know and then market yourself and your post. Visit that chat room and promotion pages. Thats the only way I've gained any traction on my posts..