RE: Community Builders on Steemit—What Do You Think of The Trending Page?
Absolutely abysmal. Far and way the worst home page of any active social network that I'm aware of. The algorithm needs to be adjusted asap - though this is something I've been complaining about for over a year now - only to fall on deaf ears. Stake-weighted voting is a catastrophic form of curation / organisation when much of the stake is allocated to vote trading services and rampant self-voting abusers. Of course, that's a possible existential question about the Steem network itself (I don't think it is, there are solutions), for now an UI solution on Steemit will do wonders.
There's some pretty good content on Steemit, but some of the very worst content is what is trending. Of course, long time Steemians know never to head to trending, but this is the flagship page that advertises Steem. I don't know what a better algorithm is, but it can't possible be any worse. On a related note, Reddit's new "best" algorithm is pretty good.
Who is responsible for adjusting the algorithm? And how exactly change in algorithm fight the bots?
Just want to understand and learn something new.
Steemit Inc operates the Steemit.com website, so their development team is responsible for the Trending page algorithm they run.
A frontend can decide to subtract amounts due to bots from the Trending page calculation, for example.
Thanks for clarification @librosist 🙏🏼😍😉
from what i have seen they don't care much to solve this issue. i don't know why is that so but in my mind they lose people by keeping this pile of garbage in trending page and in general steemit. i hope with the new update and the communities for something to change but wherever money is the only goal things go for worse to worst
This is actually helpful answer! But if they benefit personally from status quo, why would they do it? I'd welcome a change like that, cause it actually hurts your brain when you look at the trending page, but is it doable?
That would be the Steemit company.
They are in charge of what code runs on the Steemit servers.
Of course, everyone is allowed to build his or hers, own Steem interface. So if you can do a better job. Be my guest.
This is also why the people behind steemit can't control the bots. Because their is no way for them to block them from the actual steem blockchain.
The home page does too much. Did they put back the "beta" in the logo? If so, that's a great move. It sounds like some of the complaints are about branding -- people think the image of Steemit sucks. Slapping "beta" on the logo signals to everybody this is still a work in progress.
It also I think mitigates some of your concerns because people will let problems slide if they think a project isn't finished. It also discourages people from investing their time and effort, but I don't think that's a bad thing right now. The platform has no official mobile app and it's still working out a lot of kinks. I'd rather it go slow -- too slow, you'd say -- and risk annoying people, than go too fast and get popular before it can handle the attention (and criticism).
I totally agree with you, but how will the trending page get fixed if barely anyone cares? and if people actually care - they do nothing to stop this.
I asked the same question and &librosist answered me Aove here :
“liberosist (69) · 41 minutes ago
Steemit Inc operates the Steemit.com website, so their development team is responsible for the Trending page algorithm they run.
And how exactly change in algorithm fight the bots?
A frontend can decide to subtract amounts due to bots from the Trending page calculation, for example.”
Hope that helps 😍
Hit the nail on the head here. I think we also need a forum where people can openly discuss this, something built on the steemit platform, separate from the chat, the more brainstorming the better. I think this is where everyone needs to voice their opinions and not just the witnesses and those with lots of SP
Absolutely dreadful...
Steem's decent is right there for the world to see. It's a disgrace and very sad.
I agree with you @firepower and @liberosist you have to search and search among the publications to find a content worth reading. It is not possible that you are motivated by the help of bots or spam accounts, you find yourself with junk content, or you see the same user with several posts among the most "voted" and I think that many know about the user of whom I speak and for whom I start a discussion this week on the platform.
I hope that soon the situation is controlled, since it is distancing many of the good authors who feel disappointed at the lack of attention received by their publications.
Greetings from Venezuela.
It's pretty sad. Maybe the landing page needs to change if we can't fix the trending page. New might be better than trending with the way things are now.
Algorithm my ass, it's vote buying. That's all that needs to change.