RE: Separating Content by Type: Making Steemit a Buffet and Not a Stew
Please use a different word or explanation here:
"The main goal of these experiments is not to dilute the quality of content on Steemit."
That's not how dilution works. If you add water to oil, you dilute the purity the oil was at. If you have 100 posts of long content in one place, and you add 1 post of short content, the "purity" of long content in one place gets diluted by short content. That's simply reality. Just to make things more clear and defined.
"These last few weeks, all we have proven with these recent tag experiments is that the community will welcome different kinds of content."
Well actually, it's whatever the whales upvote and generate popularity for that many of the community users will support. If no whales (a small minority of the actual majority of the community) did not upvote these new post types, they would not be successful. It's not the "community" at large with low SP that makes these posts a success, but the whales that makes these posts a success with payout that draws more attention to the post, and thereby garners larger community support. Try an initiative without whales support, and see how long it last lol.
And the issue with all these content types, is with labor and reward. Time, energy and effort goes into to make well written pieces, art, and other content. Rewarding people from the same reward pool, for doing hardly any work, taking hardly any time, putting in hardly any effort, copy/pasting, and they get to reap rewards for sharing work other people did, rather than create work of their own. In the end, different content types require their own pool, platform or coin to create a value reflected in a currency base don specific content type. That way if something sucks but is only riding the tail of success in the overall platform and getting whale upvotes to success, then the rest of people don't have to get the potential rewards they make for lots of time, energy and effort, get sucked up by people who just copy paste and don't put in the labor to create valued content on the platform.
This way, a platform/token focused on created actual content, taking time, putting in energy, laboring to produce something real and have it valued, can actually be worth more, than another platform that doesn't create content, that simply copy pastes links or content to try to make money without putting in any real work. Then you would objectively see what has real value in a society. Original content creation vs. rehashing links and copy/paste. The quality of the community in the former platform would blow away everyone in the latter. Quality platforms matter to attract people.
Build the quality, and then quality will come. Build low quality, and you just get more low quality quantity of people that don't help to elevate the overall quality of the platform.
Thanks. Peace.
There is effort related to posting links too, as it requires to surface the respective content from the web. Having said that, I obviously agree, that the effort for posting links is much lower compared to generating primary content. So why not reflecting this with different payout schemes for the different content categories? Author rewards for link-postings could be at 10% of normal payouts and still make this a very attractive category, I´d assume. I made a proposal about this three of months ago.
Yeah, a different payout is 100% required. Time, effort, energy, labor, work to create content VS. no time, no effort, no energy, no labor, no work to copy/paste a link. Obvious difference in labor-value ratio.
The difference in labor-value will be handled automatically by competition. If links are overrewarded people will post more of them, and fewer and fewer will gain votes. Either the quality (and timeliness) required to be rewarded will go up, or it will become somewhat random, with those who post a link and win the raffle rewarded, but most who post links will not be rewarded much if at all.
Or. People will post more and more in an attempt to merely get lucky. Because its really not that hard to post 100 or 1000 links or 10000 links, even if you're making sure that your links are somewhat topical, there are a ton of link aggregators out there. It wouldnt be hard at all to find 20 or 30 sites like coin telegraph and link every single news story that comes out of them.
Even if this task could not be automated diretly with a bot of some sort (and i strongly suspect it could), there are already a ton of windows automation programs that would bring the compatative amount of effort to practically zero.
And even if the labor differential was not huge, there is another problem. The people who cannot make money writing "long content" (either because theyre bad at english or because they have nothing to say or whatever) are still offered a better hourly by link spamming.
That is to say that the raffle ticket we offer link spammers, for at least some of them, is the their highest hourly EV option. SO why not gather as many raffle tickets as possible.
Posting the links is kind of useless. They need to get votes. Probably the most successful link posters will be voting their own links to give them at least minimal visibility, which means vote power becomes the limited resource, and those doing it will will need to be selective.
Beyond that, even posting the links themselves requires bandwidth, which requires SP. So those wanting to compete by posting links will need to buy more SP, both limiting volume and driving up demand for SP.
You call that a "problem". I call it an opportunity to be more inclusive. Instead of shutting out people with weaker english skills or less captivating personalities, I'd rather have a system them offers them opportunities as well.
Posting a link is not effortless. Even to vote for a post on steemit with a single click is not effortless. It requires time to identify good content.
(Sure you can drop random links and vote whatever your mouse pointer accidentally finds, but such effortless strategies would not lead to relevant rewards, I´d say.)
One of the reasons (probably the main reason) that posting un-commentated links is now frowned upon is that this is exactly what happened
Really? I haven´t observed that. I haven´t seen many un-commented link-posts at all and I don´t recall any with a significant payout. Do you have examples?
I see that you clearly understand the fallacy of your own argument, having used no less than five tags. Why did you do that? To gain the widest possible audience for your post. Way to make stew while advocating for buffets. What's good for the individual is good for the platform. Just vote your preferences and let it work itself out. We keep trying to manipulate this thing and I feel the whole downfall of the price of Steem started with the asinine idea that every single post deserved reward. We split it and split it and split it, until only posts from groups splitting rewards get any. No one who is interested in being a serious content producer is interested in that model. Period.
Making my point. If you go back and look at my posts, I often pick no more than two tags.
But, you understand why the rest of us think that's bullshit, because when you want to reach the widest audience, you use five. That's what's known as hypocrisy.
It was two main tags. Steemitideas and buffet had nothing in them; I checked before submitting. The latter was for comedic value anyway. It was tagged accidentally in # newslink, since I forgot to add a space in the text when I was discussing this. So just two main tags; the rest is for illustration purposes only. Again, I rarely use more than two tags per post, sometimes three.
Rewards should be proportional to the work or the informational/entertainment value. The market and community can handle that one, I think.
entertainment value is way more important than amount of work, in terms of attracting a larger audience
I hope the people Steemit attracts would avoid or ignore copy and pasted links. So far, I haven't upvoted any links or link based postings. I get enough of that on FB. I have some faith that original art - writing, music, graphic art - will attract more people and get more upvotes than a link. Fingers crossed. Enjoy the day!