Self Votes and why I avoid voting if the author has already voted
Imagine someone invited you to dinner, they made you watch them eat and didn't even leave any crumbs on the table for you. Would you go back?
That is basically what some whales and dolphins are doing when they self vote immediately on their post.
They are removing any chance of getting decent curation rewards, so what's the point of voting on their posts as a minnow or plankton?
I am not saying, these large Steem Power holders should avoid self votes, just give your followers a decent shot at getting in some votes so they can atleast get some curation rewards.
Unless you think your post is so amazing that you don't need all these small folk...
Rant over!
Thats a brilliant analogy and never thought about it that way. I have benn guilty of this in the past too but stopped self upvoting.
Im going to run with this post and of course name names and try and put some numbers to it later lol...Cheers mate :-)
Looking forward to your take on it
I'm thinking you're in Vietnam at the moment? I've just got back to Bangkok but may be coming over in about 3 months depending on when I get my new marriage visa from Laos sometime in the next 2 weeks. Damn Visas, it's all in the timing lol !
There are definitely situations where I feel like it's justified.
For example, charity posts, contests, etc. where the rewards is supposed to go towards a pool/pot.
But yeah, many times they are rather narcissistic or materialistic.
I looked into how Curation rewards work and found that there is next to no point in worrying about them especially as a minnow because they hardly give any reward at all. If I get 0.001 Steem Power out of it every now and then, I can consider myself lucky on that account.
Self-Upvotes, I wouldn't mind to just see them gone. Mostly because I still think that it feels like self-high-fiving, defeating the purpose. I also think that it would help actually interesting content to be recognized a bit better if people had that extra piece of reason to use their Upvotes for something else than themselves.
Curation Return On Investment can actually be very high if you vote early in the right post as you get a share of every other vote after yours.
Not sure where you got your curation information from. Try reading this:
https://steemit.com/curation/@miniature-tiger/an-illustrated-guide-to-curation-from-the-simple-to-the-complex-with-real-examples-from-past-posts-part-1
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That is a good post. A bit more detailed than many I have read.
Thing is with that post and the examples given is that all numbers are rather small in comparison. Most posts have, at times, 5-50 Upvotes within the first few minutes unless it is someone who is entirely new with total values of around anything between 0.50 to 100$.
When I upvote something like that, independent on how large the pool already is or how much more is coming in because of popularity or bots pushing it up, I am still one very low powered person who probably does not/did not come in first who has to compare against people who have way more steem power than I do.
Thus, I only get crumbs at best.
So for me, after experimenting with it for a while, I came to the conclusion that especially as a beginner, it may be better not to think too hard about curation rewards and just upvote relatively new posts I see from people I am following. It's a more honest and, as I think, in the long term more efficient way of handling my upvotes.
Never really thought of it like that. I always self vote. I'm just a minnow though. My votes are still worth nothing. I haven't even broken past the 15 sp delegated to me when I signed up😟. Only been here a month though.
Patience young padwan ;)
Hang around long enough and you will learn how to make it on steemit.
The biggest mistake most make is to give up after making an half hearted effort
Yeah. I'm gonna keep trying. I don't give up that easy. Thx for the support
You shouldn't be able to upvote your own posts. Hopefuly on the next update they take away that feature
Doubt that will happen as it's easily circumvented via the creation of a second account. But a limitation on the number of votes to a single account or the requirement for a certain percentage of votes to be for someone you haven't voted on before might help
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Yeah that's true, I didn't think about about creating multi accounts