Frozen Steemit Discussions? Freezing the connections that could be made.
How did I not know that replies could be cut off? I totally understood the aspect of freezing payments and I thought that was all there was to it.
[click to enlarge]
I just saw a new post promoted by @comealong and after commenting; I realized that I wanted to check out more from this person. I'm going back through all the old posts, and I find one that gets my interest. As you can see in the above screenshot, I tried to reply with a compliment that connected to me. I didn't even think to look how old it was, but instead; just wanted to connect one Steemit user to another.
I'm a bit taken back after realizing this. Having a discussion locked, means that everything we post now has such a limited shelf-life. Shouldn't all speech be limitless and not bound to a time-frame that essentially deems it obsolete?
Designating everything on this platform to become a self-destructing message to the world?
I received an error....so, here is my attempt to let @comealong know that I had a reply for you.
Post Reference: https://steemit.com/skills/@comealong/self-portrait-original-work-charcoal-sketch
Very interesting. I know I've commented on old posts before but maybe since it's a month old? I see you're point though. Didn't realize you were cut off after a certain point. The whole point is to have open discussions and being limited keeps us from just that.
If this does not get fixed then technically Reddit > Steemit in this respect. The argument that this is to save space on the network does not hold up as you can create a new post to continue the discussion thus using up even more network bandwidth and causing fragmentation problems with the content. @dantheman please fix this.... Let's have all technical aspects = steemit > reddit
Yeah, this is a massive disadvantage to Steemit compared to Reddit, it's only after like a year that some subreddits begin locking threads. I've just come across a 2 week old post in a 1 month old thread that I no longer can post to - I've been linking to this post significantly & don't want to spam the same topic over and over.
Makes it like Snapchat in a way.
Before this thread gets frozen, here's a link to where the 30 day thread freezing 'feature' was implemented: https://github.com/steemit/steem/issues/177#issuecomment-245460386
thanks for this link.....I've just read it and it seemed to me that people were advocating for leaving the discussions open after the payouts were done.
There's nothing preventing you from creating a new topic, linking and tagging the original author etc. Yes ideally the old topic could continue forever, but if there are technical limitations we have to make a sacrifice somewhere.
Ok....I'm just thinking beyond this simple connection attached by a compliment.
Instead, I'm thinking a bit bigger. What if there was a (philosophical, medical, political, etc...) discussion that actually went to new places on Steemit.com? Later, someone searches Google and finds a topic where a discussion has occurred and they want in. Ideally, you're right it would be best to have replies hang out together on the exact same discussion....but, I guess we could just start it again.
The biggest drawback is that the original won't be able to have a link to the continuation. But maybe we can come up with a convention for continuation posts to make them easy to find.
just @ (name) the person so they can search for the continuation....but yes, frustration also felt...
That completely negates the purpose of freezing a discussion - to save resources on the blockchain; with a 30 day topic freeze time limit, i'll be forced to continuously spam the same topic & will be unable to link to specific discussions on websites (since after 30 days they won't be able to participate in the topic).
Not quite. The resources we're saving are due to limiting the complexity of the voting system. By freezing discussions, topics automatically go out of date and cease to affect processing of new rewards. Only the small minority of topics that people discuss over a long time will be reposted.
I agree with your second point, but it wouldn't be particularly challenging to have a workaround for this, such as pages for post series. They could highlight where posting is still possible or just have you post in the latest by default. You could even build a front end view which amalgamates continued threads into one continuous thread. I doubt it's a high priority issue yet though.
What if after the 30 days rather than increasing the complexity of the reward mechanism, you just disabled the reward mechanism and let the discussion continue?
Building a new front end to steem to maintain a single topic is outside the skillset of the majority of steemit's userbase.
You'd probably need to check or ask on GitHub why they didn't go with that option.
It wouldn't be for one topic. If it was just about one topic, it wouldn't be the major disadvantage you said it was. If there is a demand for this feature, the Steem Blockchain and codebase is quite open for someone with the skills to fill this demand.