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RE: 🚩Steemcleaners ABUSE or MALFUNCTION? Honest People are getting Flagged Unfairly - CENSORSHIP under the guise of anti-spam? - Are YOU supporting Steemcleaners by upvoting? Perhaps you should reconsider. Proof inside. WHALES PLEASE HELP!! 🚩

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Actually the scammers are these guys at Steemcleaners and most of the people associated with them, they have a downvoting group that specializes in downvoting certain people I guess just based on disliking them, these same guys always upvote steemcleaners, this should be looked into by @ned who is the CEO but he apparently doesn't care. I stopped caring about what happens with these types of people a long time ago, I try to make money writing they try to make money by screwing other people. But frankly to me Steemit is highly dubious, it does pay because I have been paid, but apparently it's creators have already reached their goals and now give a damn about the platform, I don't see @ned doing anything to clean up a lot of problems that have presented themselves @dan actually quit, then you have tons of bots up voting, down voting etc, the platform is no longer a social media, it is just a bot media, if you don't have bots on your side voting for you you are basically fucked.

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Thanks for your input! It is good to show that this is an issue that concerns more people than just me. The Steemit community is not one-dimensional!

The Steemit community is not one-dimensional!

I agree... but looking at it in another way, this also means that the multiple dimensions can fight with each other which isn't a good thing to happen.

If innocent steemians weren't getting hurt, I wouldn't get riled up like this.
I would rather live in chaos and uncertainty than in peace underneath a dictatorial regime..

I'm very new, here but already see the concept of which it was 'sold', - to creative people -
isn't how it is working, exactly.
(or maybe as intended, and it was just a game theory plan, using creativity as a hook, I dunno)

I do know that getting a 20 dollars upvote for a 'dancing coke can', and other posters getting nothing, or a 20 cents upvote, for a 1000 word piece - of well thought out work- is a skewed value system.

Or should I say, a value system that will not endure, in my humble opinion.

Yep it needs seriously changed.
I am hoping a better UI with more navigation options will enable the building of smaller communities to which we can withdraw when the wider one doesn't appeal to us.

but apparently it's creators have already reached their goals and now give a damn about the platform

That's sad but they made it to be decentralized... that means if they step up to try to fix things that are not about the system (like blocking people from the platform). it becomes less decentralized. if they did that ... steemit proves that decentralized system isn't always better.... the creators aren't leaders, sometimes something needs a leader.

the platform is no longer a social media, it is just a bot media, if you don't have bots on your side voting for you you are basically fucked.

This is something I want to work to fix if I got power... Bots can be used for lots of good... they can help newbies when they can't afford (But that plays in what you said.. you have to have bots on your side).

For some reason, I can see both the bright and the dark side of this platform... since I don't have to power to do anything about the dark side... I'll try what I can to make the bright side better....

One step at the time!!

You're right..
But that's also why we should be speaking up. Because it's decentralized we are the community too and our voice is worth as much as others. So we should not bow down to those most influential just because they are influential. Any voice against the ruling elite will need to come from the community itself.

what do you expect on a platform that is 10% STOLEN!!! When you are the victim and everyone else that benefits gets paid, they don't hear you...

Very true.

Maybe they should get rid of bots, because that seems to be causing the problem. Bots blindly downvoting, and when we ask about it, no answer. When we reply to their comments, no answer.

Yes! This. Get rid of bots. Limit accounts to one account per person.
Then let's see.

How do you get value from your hidden posts which would be all of them at one point?

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