A slight rant, but something I want to get off my chest. Forgive me if this already been beat to death..
FLAG SPAM. By flag spam I mean spamming flags. Whether it be on comments or on post you think just isn't good enough. Maybe a comment is short and to the point, doesn't mean that comment is spam. Maybe a post is short and to the point and shares where it was sourced, that doesn't mean the post is spam. Maybe someone posts more than one post a day and comments on many posts throughout the day, that is not spam. Many other examples come to mind but that's just a few... Spam should be reserved for outright stolen material, outright advertisement and comments that have no relation to the original post.
Flagging can be a useful tool but it shouldn't be abused.
I have only recently started to be more active on steemit and I have noticed my fair share of flag wars etc. But more recently I have noticed a trend in content cops... People who want to try and rid the internet of "spam".
I personally ran into this (below images). If sharing images like this is frowned upon I can edit and remove this post. But it is a good illustration of what I mean by flag spam.
Don't go stalk or flag this user. Again, I just shared these to illustrate a point.
So, what happened is that I was flagged after trying to help someone out and give them some extra information they may have not already seen.. It related perfectly to their post and it wasn't even my own link that I was trying to "spam" and share.
I legit just wanted to help..
I find it really funny that he thought I was spamming him and that I needed a flag. I consider his post more spam than my comment. He has it tagged in esteem, telling everyone in esteem about this app esteem.... Uhhh. Than it is also tagged in giveaways...
But I am not a flag spammer so I didn't initially flag. Just left a comment with related info he may be interested in.
We need to relax folks... We don't need to many content cops running around. If that happens it will discourage people from sharing and commenting. Every comment or post doesn't need to be some deep ground breaking thought. Leave the flagging to those that have been on steemit a while and may be able to better tell what is and what is not spam. Heck I am by no means perfect and am ranting, even this post has flaws in thoughts presented.
Anyways I am sorry for rambling, I just wanted that off my chest.
I totally agree !! This flagging for no reason at all of innocent people is getting out of hand !! At least read very carefully what exactly you are flagging before you do it !!! Flagging is a last resort in all cases !! Also a warning to someone first if its your first time dealing with it , is the the proper way to go ! Then if they keep doing it , and it better be warented , then maybe flag it !!! Take it easy and stop making enemies for no reason !!! Stay positive and have fun !! RELAX !!👍👍👍💕💕💕
I understand, but at least they removed it. I'm always nervous about that stuff. Yet that does suck when you are trying to help someone and they take it the wrong way. Nice post. Though maybe next time edit the screen shot and cross out their name. Actually scratch that I there is no next time. Humans are human and very unpredictable lol :)
At least in this instance, the resolution was worked out in a civil manner. I don't think the F4F (flag for flag) is any better than the F4F (follow for follow) tactic. Retaliation isn't the answer, in most cases. I haven't made enough friends to start making enemies yet lol.
We don't have it all figured out yet, I actually think it is a good thing that people are starting to experiment with flags and using their stake to encourage the type of usage we want to achieve. Everyone has different tolerances for spam, both authors and curators are going to have to do some things wrong as figure this out.
Both sides should try to be patient with those who are truly trying to work in the best inter\sent of the platform. It's also good we talk about it.
I personally have not flagged anyone's content despite seeing a good bit of spam my first month here. Like you said, leave it to the more experienced users with much more firepower and reputation.
I've seen a couple of pretty nasty flagging wars documented in other people's blogs and it's made me hold back and leave the flagging to the more experienced users. Things can get really heated and what ends up happening is both parties see their reputation suffer tremendously, especially if neither has much voting power or clout here.
The many users here who have devoted a lot of time and effort to policing the platform seem to be doing a fairly good job of it.
Hmm I haven't really seen a lot of flag spamming (other than flags on plagiarised content and copy/paste or spam comments). The only thing I noticed was the flagging on noganoo on random people's posts lately, which is just one man and his army of bots (no good ofcourse). I have seen plenty of flagging lately, but as I said, it was on plagiarised content, which flagged quite a bit of aswell. I have also seen some flagging on copy/paste comments (though not enough), which I also do. Heck, I even flag short comments (like 'Nice'), when they are posted right after I release a blog, because no way they could have read my entire post within 10 seconds...
I'm happy people are using their flags more, because as far as I've seen, they are mostly used for good reason. The few mistakes are ofcourse unfortunate and I hope those can all be solved normally.
Totally agree, it often happens people mistake my valuable support they can find beneath their posts with spam. This can be attributed both to ignorance and malice that comes from jealousy that somebody could express some meaning in concise manner.
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I totally agree !! This flagging for no reason at all of innocent people is getting out of hand !! At least read very carefully what exactly you are flagging before you do it !!! Flagging is a last resort in all cases !! Also a warning to someone first if its your first time dealing with it , is the the proper way to go ! Then if they keep doing it , and it better be warented , then maybe flag it !!! Take it easy and stop making enemies for no reason !!! Stay positive and have fun !! RELAX !!👍👍👍💕💕💕
I understand, but at least they removed it. I'm always nervous about that stuff. Yet that does suck when you are trying to help someone and they take it the wrong way. Nice post. Though maybe next time edit the screen shot and cross out their name. Actually scratch that I there is no next time. Humans are human and very unpredictable lol :)
At least in this instance, the resolution was worked out in a civil manner. I don't think the F4F (flag for flag) is any better than the F4F (follow for follow) tactic. Retaliation isn't the answer, in most cases. I haven't made enough friends to start making enemies yet lol.
We don't have it all figured out yet, I actually think it is a good thing that people are starting to experiment with flags and using their stake to encourage the type of usage we want to achieve. Everyone has different tolerances for spam, both authors and curators are going to have to do some things wrong as figure this out.
Both sides should try to be patient with those who are truly trying to work in the best inter\sent of the platform. It's also good we talk about it.
I personally have not flagged anyone's content despite seeing a good bit of spam my first month here. Like you said, leave it to the more experienced users with much more firepower and reputation.
I've seen a couple of pretty nasty flagging wars documented in other people's blogs and it's made me hold back and leave the flagging to the more experienced users. Things can get really heated and what ends up happening is both parties see their reputation suffer tremendously, especially if neither has much voting power or clout here.
The many users here who have devoted a lot of time and effort to policing the platform seem to be doing a fairly good job of it.
well said. the abuse is getting out of hand
Hmm I haven't really seen a lot of flag spamming (other than flags on plagiarised content and copy/paste or spam comments). The only thing I noticed was the flagging on noganoo on random people's posts lately, which is just one man and his army of bots (no good ofcourse). I have seen plenty of flagging lately, but as I said, it was on plagiarised content, which flagged quite a bit of aswell. I have also seen some flagging on copy/paste comments (though not enough), which I also do. Heck, I even flag short comments (like 'Nice'), when they are posted right after I release a blog, because no way they could have read my entire post within 10 seconds...
I'm happy people are using their flags more, because as far as I've seen, they are mostly used for good reason. The few mistakes are ofcourse unfortunate and I hope those can all be solved normally.
Totally agree, it often happens people mistake my valuable support they can find beneath their posts with spam. This can be attributed both to ignorance and malice that comes from jealousy that somebody could express some meaning in concise manner.
i hope i ll never get that flag
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