@steemcleaners caught using bots to access paid content illegally? 🤔🤔🤔
A little background, we are new to the Steemit community, but we can recognize bullshit when we see it.
We recently got into a difference of opinion when getting called out a few posts that were not properly attributed.
Admittedly, this whole situation was blown out of proportion due to the fork not allowing us to update posts for attribution. That aside...we thought shedding light on something was important.
The treatment we encountered for something that should normally require a simple correction, was unsatisfactory.
What was discovered by myself was that @Steemcleaners, like many policing authorities, take their power to abusive levels.
One particular post here and the response to it was very upsetting: https://steemit.com/photography/@fitbusinessman/peach---2018-09-20-15-53-28
When we posted this it was a curation from our Instagram account that many people loved. It's hard to identify a bum, we could find no attribution.
What shocked us was where @Steemcleaners found as the location of the original image...on Onlyfans.com, as paid member content? To my surprise...with an open admission:
Let me get this straight @Steemcleaners. You are using an image searching bot, to illegally access paid members-only content behind a payment gateway on this account: https://onlyfans.com/dariashy, to tell us that we didn't give proper attribution to the model in one of our posts?
How the hell would we be able to search that content to give the model proper attribution?
Additionally, how exactly are you doing this? I asked for access to such a tool, but they did not mention that it was available. This would help us to give the model + photographer proper attribution!
No, @Steemcleaners is more comfortable policing and censoring a community that was created for the exact intent of avoiding...you got it...censorship.
Steemit, get the shit together. You can't have a platform that is supposed to be founded on freedom of speech and have people with police brutality equivalent mindsets POLICING the posts and abusing power.
Power, I might add, that is not openly available to the content creators. Do you think we would deliberately not give attribute to a model or photographer if we had this technology?
It's complete bullshit.
It's unacceptable.
Either be for freedom of speech and offer the image searching tech to all of Steemit so we can properly curate and give attributions or STOP policing things with human officers.
I've copied all of the conversation proving admission of accessing onlyfans.com private image content below.
I do hope the good fellows at @Steamcleaners paid their $23.00 monthly membership fee before illegally accessing the models paid content in order to prove their point.
If not, @Steemcleaners you should do so immediately.
Because while our mistake can be corrected by attribution of the model (thus giving her more influence by exposure): https://www.instagram.com/dariashy_model/ , illegal access of her paid photo area by @Steamcleaners is not something you can just apologize for.
If you are tired of the bullshit tyranny by this group of children, delegate your steem and votes this way and we will be sure to fight their suppression while giving models the exposure they deserve on this platform.
- Team FITBUSINESSMAN
Steem Cleaners needs a clean up and re-focusing of there goals to be sure.
Agreed, especially when they are using content behind paywalls to justify blacklisting accounts. Additionally, the people I spoke with in regards to lifting the blacklist were completely unprofessional and likely unpaid interns trying to exercise some type of authority against accounts that were blacklisted. The whole reason for being part of Steemit is to get past the social-banning bullshit that currently exists online in the mainstream.
That's the same thing I found when they hit me. People with 5 SP playing judge and acting big.
They hit over 2,500 dolphins.
I told them that is terrible business and steem would need those people that had the funds to buy tokens ...... and here we are ..... looking at a low steem price.
The issue is not just a matter of failing to provide attribution.. The issue is that you have NO right to use the photo in the first place. That is left of another person's property.
@steemcleaners was right to ding you for it. I'm rather curious how they managed to find it behind a paywall, but, if they were to tell you then you'd be able to steal more content. That is not a good plan.
For all you know, one of the volunteers has an account and it was your bad luck day.
@shadowspub if the content is on a public forum, giving attribution is going according to CC best practices and news and other media organizations do this ALL THE TIME. You must not be familiar with CC and I suggest you read it. Unless the rights to the content are specified, which they weren't, attribution is THE best practice.
What I did was legal. The accessing of paid content behind a paywall, without paying, by @steemcleaners is not legal. Thus @steemcleaners broke the law to provide evidence against a lesser offense. I guess my point isn't comprehensible by lesser minds who pay no attention to the law. Stop using left logic. Your point is invalid.
Actually, the rights do not have to be specified. If I create content, the copyright is mine and you using it with or without attribution is theft.
You have zero proof of how @steemcleaners accessed the image. As I stated, for all you know, one of the volunteers could have had an account.
So, einstein, you stole someone's property and used it without their permission. You are accusing others of your crime with zero proof.
Actually, you are wrong.
The content in question that was posted by me was from public domain and unattributed because no attribution was found publically.
By going behind a paywall illegally, they THEMSELVES broke copyright law by accessing copyright material behind a paywall and without paying for it. Thus, they broke copyright law to try and prove that the content was copyright.
This is the equivalent of illegally spying on someone to prove they broke the law. They are not an authority of any type and no one from the platform gave them permission to do this.
They elected themselves as "policers" then accessed a platform illegally to use stolen data to prove their case. Smh, not too bright!