RE: Steemit Etiquette: Is it RUDE to Leave a Comment but NOT Upvote?
With such a limited number of votes per day available to newcomers, I can understand why someone might comment on a post s/he really liked -- or had something worthwhile to add -- and not feel he could UV because he needed to "save" his votes for other places OR ... he really was out of power when he made his stop.
The ones who have lots of power who go out of their way to manually drop a penny on a post may mean it as a compliment (at least I hope they do), but I agree it doesn't feel like that. It feels extremely condescending.
The worst though are the ones who don't upvote the post, leave literally a 4 word comment and upvote their comment themselves for anywhere from $.30 to $10.00. I have one who's done that to me three times now, and I've seen and heard about it elsewhere.
A little investigation shows that my "stalker" ... well, that's what he does in the time he spends here. I'm not the only one he hits. He UVs his own tiny comments on about 10 posts a day, doesn't UV the post -- and then he vanishes. I'd say it nets him about $100 / mo -- but I'd also say the ill will (and the Karma he's generating) weigh a lot more than that.
I wouldn't call it rude. I call it downright shitty. But then that's me -- and when it happens I quietly tell myself, "It takes all kinds" -- and move on. I see though that it's a question -- and a practice -- being raised by others. And that's encouraging. (Thank you for the opportunity to rant. I am very new here, so my UVs not worth much, but it's up there. Lying about such things is also downright shitty, and at the end of the day I have to live with myself. Just sayin'.)
One last thought. My vote worth is tiny now ... less than $.01 (but growing!!) ... and if I see a post I really like, I'll make a note of it, wait until I'm powered up again at 96 - 100% and go back and UV it, either later that night or even the next morning when I've had all night to recover voting power.
You see, I believe in that thing called Karma -- and that's how I'm cultivating mine.
Yeah, abusive self-upvoting sucks... and fortunately, there are now a number of community initiatives going to call out practices like that. If you are not already aware of their existence, @sherlockholmes and @spaminator look into things like you describe, all the time. @smackdown.kitty is a bot created specifically to flag abusive self-upvotes, but I'm not sure how to summon it.
Yes, I would also call it "shitty." And I believe in karma, as well...
I'm new and trying to figure this out. If someone upvotes their own comment on my post, do I get any benefit from that on the post payout? I also wonder about upvoting the comments of people who comment on my post.
I've been going back on Day 5-6 and upvoting a few comments that were the best on any of my posts. I figure that gives credit to the person and I don't have to upvote on the fly when comments are coming in. But again, I have no idea how upvoting comments turns into payouts and for who.
As far as upvoting - I comment 20+ times a day and have no power to upvote most of that time. If the person is of high power - I say nothing about voting. If the person is 50 and below I will tell them I'm not voting because I am recharging like in this case.
I found you through @jerrybanfield's upvotable post - congrats!
Thanks for the comment @fitinfun! As far as I understand, when someone upvotes their own comment, they are basically putting most of the money in their own pocket (75+%). There are some further "timing technicalities" I really don't understand.
I typically upvote (and respond to) engaging comments on my posts close to the beginning... and then I'll revisit 4-5 days later and catch up with any later additions.
For me, the bottom line is "reward content I perceive to add value to the discussion, and/or the site as a whole." I realize that's subjective, of course...
I see you're another Tsu transplant-- welcome to Steemit; lot more potential here!
Oh! Yes, I'm from tsu - I'm so hopeful about this place but I am sure stumbling around.
So do the votes on comments also make the post payout go up?
@fitinfun, the votes on comments operate separately from the post; they have their own payout pool, as I understand it. Sometimes you can make almost as much in rewards from a well-placed comment that inspires discussion, as you can from the primary post. It's rare, but it happens.
OK - thank you - I will keep that in mind :)