Introducing the Steem Defender Bot. Designed to Protect Steem From Economic Collapse and Support Minnow Growth (Article)

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Here in the Earth Nation, we really love the concept of Steem.

We perceive that Steem has a weakness that may dramatically effect the value of Steem on the open market and make Steem very difficult to sell.

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Here’s an example;
A hedge-fund with access to billions of dollars purchases all of the Steem available on the open markets. That Hedge-Fund then places buy orders for Steem at a higher rate, temporarily artificially increasing the price of Steem to 7 dollars per. They then power up a network of like-bots to automatically engage with AI spun content to turn Steem into an automated ROI farm. They start dumping massive amounts of Steem on the market without increasing the demand for Steem or adding any value to the user/content base. Thus devaluing all of Steem.

For this example let’s assume the Hedge-Fund originally buys 100M Steem with 84M USD worth of Cryptocurrency. They then place another 50M into Buy Order for more Steem. When the Price of Steem goes from 0.84 to 7 dollars per Steem because of this move, that 100M worth of Steem is now worth 700M. The Hedge Fund then uses this 700M worth of Steem to POWER UP.

This Hedge Fund intelligently diversifies this Steem into thousands of different accounts to attempt to hide this move to monopolize Steem. The Fund then automates all of these profiles with AI automation and sets up a network of cross-liking and comment upvoting that hides itself from the rest of the Steem community by never upvoting posts enough to hit trending, while also never using any normal tags.

The Hedge-Fund then uses its 700M power to upvote exclusively their own posts and comment content. They start making 70,000 dollars worth of Steem every single day by doing this. 2.1M a month. 25.55M dollars a year.

Based on this example, it would only take a 150 million dollar initial investment to start producing almost 25 million dollars a year. What’s more, 50 million dollars of that initial investment would come back within a month after the hedge-fund drops the buy orders after powering up. That’s a 25% yearly interest bank-account.

We know of Hedge-Funds that are just waiting for the Steem User Base to grow larger so they can safely pull this move off and milk the Steem economy for as much as they can before the increased supply without an increase in demand crashes the price of Steem beneath 1 cent per making it almost impossible to sell.

Because of this Vulnerability we cannot yet bring Steemit to our Greater Network.

Our Solution to this problem is a new variable attached to all Steem accounts. For the purpose of this Example, Let’s call this Variable “Influence”. Every account starts with 100 Influence.

Accounts that consistently either like their own content, and/or continuously like the content of the same accounts, and/or continuously like the content of accounts that have been associated as “bots” will lose influence every week. Accounts that consistently like content from users they haven't liked before gain influence.

Accounts that have an influence score less than 100 have a penalty to their upvote power. At 0 influence a 70% penalty is applied.

Accounts that have an influence score more than 100 have an increase to their upvote power. At the 200 influence cap a 30% boost is applied.

To keep a 200 influence, accounts must engage with totally new users 10% of the time, and engage with users that they have not frequently engaged with 25% of the time.

For users that do not want to spend a lot of time finding new authors, we strongly recommend giving some of your weekly votes towards a curation service that will automatically use your votes to find new users with the best content.

This solution will not only dramatically reduce the ROI from Hedge-Funds seeking to monopolize steem to the point where it will collapse our economic system from flooding the market with steem without increasing the demand for steem…. This solution will also facilitate more support for new authors who are trying to be seen. Which is the other greatest problem Steem faces; It is very difficult to get started here making a noticeable income.

We realize that steemit-upvote bots pose a similar issue. Wherein an hedge fund can inflate the price of steem, use that to get a lot of power up, then delegate their vote to mercenary bots to get the same 25% yearly Interest. However…. This potential problem is much easier to solve, as it is very easy to track these mercenary bots and who is funding them. It is a simple thing to setup a bot swarm to automatically give a 30-50% penalty to these mercenary bots, which will dramatically reduce the ROI for investors to prevent pumping and dumping of Steem on the market.

Our Economic Team also strongly recommends that the Founders of Steem reserve at least 50M steem for the purpose of filling buy orders/placing sell orders at ranges between 2-10 dollars to prevent artificial inflation and manipulation of Steem Value.

We have 2 potential avenues to integrate these solutions into Steem.

  1. Fork/Adjust the Steem Code.

  2. Create a Data Service that automatically compiles all users influence and makes all Steem users influence rating and upvoting habits known to all other Steem users. Then create a swarm of bots that automatically penalize those with low influence while boosting those with high influence.

The Purpose of this Article is to determine whether Steemians support this Solution. If we find the Steem community to be in support we will create this data service and bot swarm software free of charge and Open-source. Alternatively we are open to helping fork the code to include this upgrade.

If you think we are somehow incorrect about our perspective or calculations, let us know. Please list sources from official steem sites to back up your perspective. If you have a better solution to this problem, please share it!

If you agree with our solutions, please show us your support!

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I think your argument is flawed from the start. If any hedge-fund decides to go in, you would see many more follow the suit. So a single entity wouldn't be able to do the damage, because now they have to compete against other hedge-funds and financial entities.

Besides the fact that, it would be much more beneficial for any financial entity to implement win-win strategy, and find out being in on Steem would give them financial advantage over others.

I think your argument is flawed from the start. If any hedge-fund decides to go in, you would see many more follow the suit.

Not only that, but as you buy up the STEEM order books around the internet, the price will rise very, very quickly and you reach diminishing returns, like any other thing traded on open markets. This whole post is fantasy.

Thanks @geekgirl for bringing this up. Not only is your argument flawed, @earthnation, but you're also completely skewed morally.

As @inquiringtimes and many others brought up, you summoned every upvote bot there is and used them to push your undeserving content to the top of Trending. And then, you flagged the comments these bots sent to your post.

After paying for the upvotes, why would you ever flag their comments? This is one of many reasons I'm hoping bot owners will take the time to add a blacklist of people who do abusive things like this.

Please stop abusing the rewards pool and promoting scammy content that frankly, will never work.

Thank you,
a concerned Steemian.

@geekgirl @sneak its apparent you missed the entire point of this dialogue. It's not an arguement, its a conversation. A thread to discuss various possibilities and to reach a higher point of community clarity on how steem and all associated mechanisms REALLY works. Since well sourced information on it seems difficult to find.

The problem here is that you essentially imply that STEEM is doomed b/c this can happen; however, this same scheme could be done in so many other markets. What I've seen is that if they were to buy up all the STEEM (or fill-in-the-blank) then there would be none available for anyone else to buy and/or it would be too expensive to sell. Besides, the fact is that probably 75% of STEEM owners won't specifically sell their STEEM (I know it's a grand exaggeration, but if anyone caught wind of such a buy-up then more would HOLD). That's my 2-cents-worth at least.

They'd sell like a mofo if price went to $7, I'd wager.

And whoever bought at that price would lose when the markets correct.

I think that’s accurate.

That's the nature of markets, yes. People buy, people sell.

Thank you @dbzfan4awhile. Yes, the scheme mentioned in our example happens in every big market. Which is why we wanted to know more fully how steem is prepared to protect itself from these larger market influencers.

We see that our enterance hook on this paragraph was.... overwhelmingly strong to the point of creating emotion dissonance. We have retracted our earlier introduction statement to be more neutral. Clearly, the steem community and economy has a lot going for it.

It was really nice to see a lot of information here otherwise unavailable to us. In some time we will release an addition to our steem academy that includes the best information from this thread and other threads.

It also helps when you have great visibility in the community.

so... you came up about $1000 in 22 days by paying for votes... did you really think that's the way this is supposed to work? and now you power down? because we called you out on your behavior? but, you really love steem?

I could only wish to know the right people that would pull me up to $1000. If all that is accurate then it I’m disappointed 😔.

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The value of Bitcoin Cash is easy to see. But you need to look at its value from a FIAT currency perspective and not from a crypto currency perspective if you are going to see that value.

The word "cash" provides the biggest clue. It was no doubt chosen for the new currency because it invokes a sense of tangibility ( and normalcy ) in the minds of people. The target market for Bitcoin Cash is ordinary consumers...

If a dollar had twice the buying power tomorrow, you'd only need one instead of two. Apply that concept to steem.

Downvoting for significant disagreement with rewards. Nonsensical FUD does not warrant the pending reward.

Awesome! I was waiting for someone with power to stand up here and stop it.

Very interesting article! I had a similar idea to make self and circle voting less attractive by implementing diminishing returns, but your post opens a completely new perspective on the possible scenario of hedge-fund attacks.

Super smart solution @jaki01

My thoughts, having read and examined your post closely

Haha, you summed it up perfectly! :-)

Where are these 20+ million followers? If you really had that much followers your website would be used even a little bit, not look like this:

They seem to be about as "popular" as @matttrainer.

Haha, nice comparison :-)

The followers in our extended media alliance are part of the Concious Media Alliance. https://www.consciousmediacoalition.com/ Most notable is collective evolution with more then 5 million followers. https://www.facebook.com/collectiveevolutionpage

I have an easy fix to your doomsday scenario, first, stop powering down or hedge fund will get them. Then buy some liquid Steem, there are many of us doing so and I'm sure many are planning to hold them for a long time. Second, tell your 5 million followers to get some too. If each of them would buy only 2, it would instantly be 10 million Steem off the market and out of reach for any single hedge fund.

That's a fix to your problem you should be advocating and actually is doable. So let's try that.

Buy STEEM? Why would they do that? And how? They likely don’t have much money.

EDIT:

“Everyone here at our headquarters is living communally off of $200/mo...”

Looks like I was right.

What a marvelous excitement - people start to think ahead!

What happens, if someone hacks into the Data Service ? And what is the definition of engagement ? How would you define that ?

Wow! What an intelligent thought on how this solution could fail. Thank you @sanmi.

Well! Ultimately, our data service would be its own blockchain. However.... our developers work first by making web-based applications.

If our web based app was hacked, we would almost certainly notice it..... and then we would recall all of the votes made by our botswarm so long as we caught the hack within 7 days.

The definition of engagement for the purpose of this example is purely "upvoting".

Well! Ultimately, our data service would be its own blockchain.

Then why do you not go and BUILD your own blockchain? If your group has 700 million dollars to "play with". Oh--but then you would already have preset rules for people joining your blockchain, and people would not join because of YOUR rules, so you would never have very many users. Is that why you are trying to tell me and other people on steemit how to, who, when and why to vote for?

I don't think, its going to work. I have a better suggestion for you. If you really have the ability to advertise Steem to 20+ million followers, then go to big brands, like Apple, Microsoft, Amazon etc.

And ask them to reward people in terms of Steem , when someone buys their product or Service. That way, we will have more stake holders in this platform and that will create more trust.

And they will get direct customers so that they can pay here, in stead of what they spend in advertising.

"For this example let’s assume the Hedge-Fund originally buys 100M Steem with 84M USD worth of Cryptocurrency."

If $84M came into the market, I doubt the price would remain at 84c

Quite the Astute observation @spotlight.

For simplicities sake, we did not further complicate this example with details such as the one you mentioned. There are in fact many additional variables that are not mentioned in this example.

We did the best we could to really simplify an otherwise overwhelmingly complicated process.

Does this make sense to you?

There are in fact many additional variables that are not mentioned in this example.

Would one of those variable be exempting who has to vote the way you want them too, or exempting yourself from your own voting influence scheme?

This system would absolutely need to be universal to be effective. With no exceptions of any kind. Thank you for the clarifying question @bashadow

Note how they complain about bots, yet use a bot to vote themselves up.

We realize that steemit-upvote bots pose a similar issue.

Yet it is okay for them to use them.

No, I just disagree with your content. Trolling would be spreading falsehoods and lies. What is the trolling activity I have done? Commenting on your post, and commenting to other commenters? Is this the "trolling activity", I am doing?

It is what steemit is about, conversation, not condemnation of a person pointing out a hypocritical action. It is like Senator Dianne Feinstein being all for banning handguns for everyone, except Her body guards.

So I will just mark you and your organization as FSDH, and make no more meaningful comments on this post, since my comments seem to have hurt your feelings to the point of you calling me a Troll.

I would like to point out to you and everybody that commented even though I disagree with you and your stance on telling people who, what, and how often a person can vote for someone, I did not flag you, nor down vote you, as you and @unikey have downvoted me. Not once but several times. Yes you have the Best interest of all steemit user at heart.

You should ask @berniesanders, how I acted when he and his house of cards and 52 downvoters, downvoted me. I survived. I continued to grow.

We assumed you were trolling because you were saying the same thing multiple times. Also, the bit about us wanting to control everyones votes?

I mean, really? Were just offering a solution to a very complex problem for the purpose of creating a conversation about how we can make steem better. We don't want to control peoples votes.

Were not even suggesting that anyones votes be controlled. Our influence mechanism would still empower everyone to choose who they are upvoting, and which curators they want to follow.

We hid your comments because we didn't think they were adding constructive feedback to the conversation.

We welcome your constructive feedback. We don't mean to shut you down.

For simplicities sake, we did not further complicate this example with details such as the one you mentioned.

hahahahaha

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