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RE: Joining in on the self voting on comments fray...
Spam posts we already have mechanisms in place to fight. That hasn't been an issue for a long time. Right now we have comment pool draining everything. I view it as a firewall or a stop gap. Everything you are talking about exists now. I don't see it hurting anything but it can limit the bleeding.
Short of that the community needs to withdraw all support, followers, votes, etc from the people that do it. Let them stand alone. If that doesn't work then we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.
I'm saying it will incentivize spamming posts, the equivalent of a cool post comment. We have the same mechanism to deal with spam across the board, comment spamming is just more lucrative now because of visibility issues, fixing that will bring forth post spam, granted it's more visible, it will be more lucrative while some will probably still comment spam and drain the incentive to comment.
How can we see how much the comments and how much the posts are making respectively? I think if we can see how much the average is then maybe we can determine a good split based on that.
I believe tying into the steamdb.com database a report to determine those amounts could be found as you are correct I have no idea where that split should actually be. I provided the 20% / 80% only as a hypothetical example.
It seems that 6.6% of rewards go to commenters and 70.7% go to the authors, curation is more profitable then commenting it seems, 14.2%. A theoretical split would be better at 10-90, these numbers are kinda sad from the point of engagement.
Yeah I am hoping engagement shifts... So based upon today's models that could work. We could also go closer to my 20% / 80% that I made up out of the air and effectively be doubling the ceiling for comment engagement.
In a way you would also not affect comment self voting though, by the looks of it, a handful of offenders are easy to deal with right now, there is something to say about the fail that is 4x the voting power used, two steps forward one step back. Hey ned can we listen to the community for once..............
Yeah I always thought we were going to an N curve but it sounds like we went to 4N for some obscure reason.
Note I really don't want a ceiling. I do think having a firewall to protect different types of activities from each other might be worth doing though.
I personally believe curating pays too much. Yet it is that payout that continues to inspire the truly powerful to keep spreading the wealth. Hopefully not just to themselves.
https://steemit.com/steemit/@ethical-ai/punishing-rabid-self-upvoting-of-comments
This posts is interesting, it shows that self comment voting is a problem, but by the looks of it there's only a few offenders.
The guy at the bottom of that list was the person I interacted with that I watched obsessively up voting his own comments. I just looked at his account and the top one on the list. They may have stopped... Though they guy I dealt with only has two comments so far of his within the past 4 hours or so that he didn't up vote. So we shall see.
Yeah I do think there are only a few offenders at the moment.
You probably get a kick out of knowing that too as I know you've had some run ins with that person.
They spout off flat earth nonsense, spread global warming still, have wrote some classic communism posts like let's assume a tractor and have attacked religion. Yeah I forgot where I ran into them but they seem obviously some kind of operation, not an actual person.
Not so much an operation... other than victim of a mind plague that like a zombie seeks to spread it. :) Doesn't want to hear anything new, just wants to eat brains.
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