sunlit7 wrote, "Steemit has a long way to go to improve it's snobbish attitude before they'll ever replace FB."
I don't think their goal is to 'replace FB'. I think their goal is to empower users with rewards for user-activity. If that also happen to replace FB, then so be it. It's not snobbish to call a thing what it is, except to those who are a part of what-is, and who don't like being correctly identified in unflattering ways.
Thank you so much for this information; the fact that Bloomberg did an article on Steemit is huge! I've been off FB for some time, mostly due to its' negativity, but also to the privacy issues I have with it. I can't believe that there was 41 billion in revenue for them last year! It's nice to be on a platform where the revenue goes in the opposite direction for sure.
I really like Palurintano's comment, There are still many many technical issues, community-splitting conflicts, and a very steep learning curve...What can each of us do to make STEEM the best it can be?”
I am a part of @newbieresteemday, which was started by @davemccoy and @mudcat36, which began as a resteem initiative (obviously:), but morphed into a welcoming, supporting, and educating/mentoring community to help new and not-so-new folks with "the steep learning curve" here. The hope is that by building and creating a stronger younger foundation, they will in turn grow to do the same for other new people who join. Some of us have also created a @friendsofgondor curation trail to help with the "community-splitting conflicts". The "technical issues" are way out of my league however:)
Thank you again for your post @careywedler! Cheers :)
I've been off FB for some time, mostly due to its' negativity, but also to the privacy issues I have with it.
Then it's surprising you'd come to Steem, where literally every write action one takes on the site is public to the entire world. There is no privacy whatsoever here.
hahaha fair enough! Allow me to clarify @sneak ...on steemit I know everything is public and I'm ok with that; I joined with full disclosure. It's the more insidious nature of the privacy issues on FB that I wasn't so crazy about.
Steemit is not a decentralized platform. It is a privately held company whose top tier hold all the power.
Steemit also is given to much credit for not censoring....if one can destroy another through flagging just because of what that person says that is censorship. I don't know how many times I've seen people say "don't poke the bear"....meaning don't poke a whale. That's censorship, if people can't feel free to speak their mind without being destroyed.
Good point. This is the biggest problem Steemit faces. People not speaking their mind because they are afraid of getting destroyed by some angry whale. Imagine someone quitting their job to blog on Steemit, then writes something "wrong" and is then constantly downvoted for writing the "wrong" content or having the wrong political views.
I’ve been saying this from the beginning. Why spend time on Facebook where they milk you and make money off your data, when you could come to Steemit, make new friends, and earn a little on the side, or even a lot! Hell, even if you made pennies here, it’s still a few dollars every year that you wouldn’t have made on Facebook.
Once users start to realize the power of Steemit, we will surely grow. Like MySpace before it, Facebook will undoubtedly collapse and its user base will flock to this platform. All we need now is a mobile app and we’ll be golden. Can’t wait to meet all the new people!
Hardly. Constantly telling people you aren't making money because you are not producing "quality" content isn't going to keep those people around, it's just going to intimidate them to go back to FB.
sunlit7, for one who in an earlier comment talked about Steemit's alleged need not to be snobbish, I perceive a lot of snobbery coming from your comments.
Facebook engages in its fair share of censorship. And they never, ever, EVER pay their users just for being there. On Steemit, there's an opportunity to engage, and if you're polite and well-reasoned in your comments and posts, there's an opportunity to earn some crytocurrency.
What, exactly, is your problem with that framework? From what I can see, your problem with it is with the freedom of the community to down-vote your content. Is that dynamic particular to Steemit, or is it also in action on Facebook? I think we both know the answer to that question.
In the kind of community you seem to be advocating, a complete lack of community feedback would be indistinguishable from a place where spam runs rampant and the community can't police itself. Is that really what you'd prefer as an alternative to Steemit's current community feedback schema?
To my knowledge I haven't been down voted yet and I've actually made some pennies on some of my comments. You are at a twenty five so I assume you are new here and haven't seen how they insult people by telling them that their engagement isn't good enough as a reason for not getting anywhere on here. It much harder than you are aware of at this point. You will see as you see people who try and then just plain disappear off the site. Some of these people put their hearts and souls into writing at a level that they are capable of and to me that acknowledgement or having acknowledgement of that effort means a lot more in acceptance of everyone as a whole who really believe in the concept that this could be a valued added aspect to spending time on a site. I had a son with a unspecified learning disability and I always told him it was better to try then not to try, trying deserves reward and recognition not being told you are not good enough.
Another reason I can tell you are new is that you haven't run across any of the flame wars either yet. I wouldn't recommend getting involved in the majority of them but they are a learning experience. Bots are being used to spam the rewards pool at the last minute, whales up voting themselves to rake in hundreds off the rewards pool, and people are incapable for whatever reasons....they are afraid of a whale taking them down or flagging them into oblivion, there's no policing on the site, it's totally incapable out of fear of policing itself. I am not trying to scare you, like I said the best thing to do is stay out of the majority of the fights but you should really educate yourself about what's going on so you see where the money is going that could be going towards growing the platform instead of repeatedly by means of abuse making the rich richer on here. There, at this point, isn't anything anyone can do about it. Just carrying on around them, I wish you lots of luck and good fortune.
I agree. Unfortunately, Facebook is full of rubish lats time. :(
When was the last time you popped into the "new" page here? :)
Today I guess... :D
O wow, I am really happy to see steemit going places ☺️
Like if Bloomberg is writing about steemit then man it is a really big thing.
Websites That Pay Users With Blockchain Aim to Disrupt Facebook
That was the headline, Steemit has a long way to go to improve it's snobbish attitude before they'll ever replace FB.
sunlit7 wrote, "Steemit has a long way to go to improve it's snobbish attitude before they'll ever replace FB."
I don't think their goal is to 'replace FB'. I think their goal is to empower users with rewards for user-activity. If that also happen to replace FB, then so be it. It's not snobbish to call a thing what it is, except to those who are a part of what-is, and who don't like being correctly identified in unflattering ways.
I don't know why they'd fight the change instead of embracing it.
FB is full of s**t now, I am happy steemit is there now :)
Thank you so much for this information; the fact that Bloomberg did an article on Steemit is huge! I've been off FB for some time, mostly due to its' negativity, but also to the privacy issues I have with it. I can't believe that there was 41 billion in revenue for them last year! It's nice to be on a platform where the revenue goes in the opposite direction for sure.
I really like Palurintano's comment, There are still many many technical issues, community-splitting conflicts, and a very steep learning curve...What can each of us do to make STEEM the best it can be?”
I am a part of @newbieresteemday, which was started by @davemccoy and @mudcat36, which began as a resteem initiative (obviously:), but morphed into a welcoming, supporting, and educating/mentoring community to help new and not-so-new folks with "the steep learning curve" here. The hope is that by building and creating a stronger younger foundation, they will in turn grow to do the same for other new people who join. Some of us have also created a @friendsofgondor curation trail to help with the "community-splitting conflicts". The "technical issues" are way out of my league however:)
Thank you again for your post @careywedler! Cheers :)
Then it's surprising you'd come to Steem, where literally every write action one takes on the site is public to the entire world. There is no privacy whatsoever here.
hahaha fair enough! Allow me to clarify @sneak ...on steemit I know everything is public and I'm ok with that; I joined with full disclosure. It's the more insidious nature of the privacy issues on FB that I wasn't so crazy about.
Good catch though!
Steemit is not a decentralized platform. It is a privately held company whose top tier hold all the power.
Steemit also is given to much credit for not censoring....if one can destroy another through flagging just because of what that person says that is censorship. I don't know how many times I've seen people say "don't poke the bear"....meaning don't poke a whale. That's censorship, if people can't feel free to speak their mind without being destroyed.
Good point. This is the biggest problem Steemit faces. People not speaking their mind because they are afraid of getting destroyed by some angry whale. Imagine someone quitting their job to blog on Steemit, then writes something "wrong" and is then constantly downvoted for writing the "wrong" content or having the wrong political views.
well said;
I’ve been saying this from the beginning. Why spend time on Facebook where they milk you and make money off your data, when you could come to Steemit, make new friends, and earn a little on the side, or even a lot! Hell, even if you made pennies here, it’s still a few dollars every year that you wouldn’t have made on Facebook.
Once users start to realize the power of Steemit, we will surely grow. Like MySpace before it, Facebook will undoubtedly collapse and its user base will flock to this platform. All we need now is a mobile app and we’ll be golden. Can’t wait to meet all the new people!
Hardly. Constantly telling people you aren't making money because you are not producing "quality" content isn't going to keep those people around, it's just going to intimidate them to go back to FB.
The money here is an added bonus. Even if you made 1 cent, it's more than FB will ever give you.
I guess that went over your head.
sunlit7, for one who in an earlier comment talked about Steemit's alleged need not to be snobbish, I perceive a lot of snobbery coming from your comments.
Facebook engages in its fair share of censorship. And they never, ever, EVER pay their users just for being there. On Steemit, there's an opportunity to engage, and if you're polite and well-reasoned in your comments and posts, there's an opportunity to earn some crytocurrency.
What, exactly, is your problem with that framework? From what I can see, your problem with it is with the freedom of the community to down-vote your content. Is that dynamic particular to Steemit, or is it also in action on Facebook? I think we both know the answer to that question.
In the kind of community you seem to be advocating, a complete lack of community feedback would be indistinguishable from a place where spam runs rampant and the community can't police itself. Is that really what you'd prefer as an alternative to Steemit's current community feedback schema?
To my knowledge I haven't been down voted yet and I've actually made some pennies on some of my comments. You are at a twenty five so I assume you are new here and haven't seen how they insult people by telling them that their engagement isn't good enough as a reason for not getting anywhere on here. It much harder than you are aware of at this point. You will see as you see people who try and then just plain disappear off the site. Some of these people put their hearts and souls into writing at a level that they are capable of and to me that acknowledgement or having acknowledgement of that effort means a lot more in acceptance of everyone as a whole who really believe in the concept that this could be a valued added aspect to spending time on a site. I had a son with a unspecified learning disability and I always told him it was better to try then not to try, trying deserves reward and recognition not being told you are not good enough.
Another reason I can tell you are new is that you haven't run across any of the flame wars either yet. I wouldn't recommend getting involved in the majority of them but they are a learning experience. Bots are being used to spam the rewards pool at the last minute, whales up voting themselves to rake in hundreds off the rewards pool, and people are incapable for whatever reasons....they are afraid of a whale taking them down or flagging them into oblivion, there's no policing on the site, it's totally incapable out of fear of policing itself. I am not trying to scare you, like I said the best thing to do is stay out of the majority of the fights but you should really educate yourself about what's going on so you see where the money is going that could be going towards growing the platform instead of repeatedly by means of abuse making the rich richer on here. There, at this point, isn't anything anyone can do about it. Just carrying on around them, I wish you lots of luck and good fortune.
I don't believe in eliminating somebody from the market but should have a good competition
Steemit makes facebook look like exploiters. I actually wish all the time I have spent on facebook were judiciously spent there.
"look like" ? ;)