Time for some Change! Blockchain is timeless, our posts are not! Tick..Tack..

in #steemit6 years ago (edited)

 

I think many of us know this,


As soon as you have finished your post on which you may have worked for hours and you send him out into the Steem, his lifetime allready starts to run away. For  many, especially new Steemians, the first few hours often seem to be the most important, because they show how "mass acceptance"  of your article. 

Posts voted in the first few minutes are more likely to generate attention. Whether your contribution has overcome this hurdle or not, the next countdown has started allready. Older contributions have much lower chances to get viewed because of the mass of new posts.


Why is that so?


The  7 days that a contribution has to be voted by others makes only in one hand sence, because it motivates us to write new contributions and force us to remain active. Similar to the VOTINGPOWER system, in which our Steem is locked away for a period of 13 weeks, this time limit, probably works as a self-preservation for the Steemit Blockchain.

But what if there was no voting-time-limit ?


I have been asking myself this question for quite some time. Since new protocols like Dtube, Dmania, Dsound, Utopian.io, Busy.org started, our community grows exponentially. Nowadays the actual voting-time-limit seems contraproductive to me. It seems to me that the time limit promotes quantity rather than quality.

Quickly finish a mail, so there will be a payout in a week. What do I write? ... no matter, it needs to beeing viewed and upvoted, in a week nobody remembers it anyway.

I imagine some Steemians working like this everyday  xD 

They have learned to take advantage of the platform for themselves. But most likely new Steemians, who swim still lonely through the Steem,  and do not have any faithful upvoters to support them on a regular basis, will suffer from this. 

We tell them, post always high quality contributions and that regularly, then you will be upvoted... But they only have this one week, and often even less than this, just a few hours, until their post disappears in Walhalla and they loose their sorce of STEEMPOWER. The System force them to make a new contribution but with time this can get very frustrating!

The blockchain is timeless.


What's on the blockchain stays on the blockchain. 

And that forever ... well until a global power failure shuts down every single device^^ 


Should this timeless property not being implemented in our daily use of Steemit? 

There are very helpful posts that are over one year old, have 10 thousands  views and represents a great value for Steemit and the community. However, not for the author, because he already recived his votes and every further new vote has no effect!


This is why its worth beeing able to vote for old contributions!


After much consideration, I came to a possibility in which it makes sense to continue voting on older contributions. All upvotes after this one week will go 100% into  STEEMPOWER

Why? ..simple, this would continue to reward the authors of old posts with influence on Steemit, which is especially important for new Steemians! Nevertheless,  we are still motivated to write new posts for SBD, our blue money,  which we can sell at good conditions at any time, without the need to touch our Steem. 

Furthermore, our blockchain would also benefit from this Steem stored as STEEMPOWER. Because  STEEMPOWER not only means voting power for us, but is also a kind of a backup /  security for the continued existence of the blockchain.


Steemit also needs a search function!


A search function, which can use to sort the contributions by  topics, creation date, number of viewers, etc., would pay tribute to old contributions as well!


I would be very interested in what you say, do my thoughts make sense? Do I see something wrong, or did I ignore something important in my consideration? 

Let us help make this platform more productive and  fairer! I would be glad if we could discuss this topic in the comments.

In Humanity we trust, in Steem we belive!

Stay creative! 

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Good considerations to my point of view! Totally agree on the research, honestly the current one it's not good at all. The principle you gave is right for me, but not easy to handle and can raise some issues related to abuses. Maybe the truth is on the middle, maybe a possibility would be to extend the payout period?

Yes, probably. Or maybe the stop of delegation funktion could make it possible to cancel the payout period.
But in the end this kind of work must beeing done by the developer team, we just can help by providing new ideas.
Thank you for your feedback mate.

After reading your post I have reached at an understanding that the best way to start and remain on steemit platform in the beginning is to comment and make good friends. In time you all will grow and can support each other.

Thats right @cheema1, keep and join people that you like and the future is ours ;)

I agree. I've been trying to do the same, it's just finding the time to do so.

Very forward thinking!!! I agree!! In a social media sense, the 7day voting limit works, As far as being a musician, I make eps/albums/mixes that hopefully have a longer shelf life than 7days!!! I def think DSound should address this!!! The bigger it gets, the less likely people are going to see my work within the 7days, and the less reason I have for posting! In the 'real world' a book or an album isnt only bought in the first week, that would be crazy!!! This is def counter productive in 'being paid' in steem and using the platform!!!!

Yes this would be absolutly crazy xD
In some cases this system might work but i see this as a big problem specialy to artists. Art in all forms, music, painting, poetry, etc. is timeless and it makes up a huge part of the Steemit Comunity!

Great feedback @termitemusic, big thanks!

RESPECT!!! An option while posting to extend the time would be nice, maybe with a lower % reward, this would be good for artists! I do love steemit tho and understand why its 7days!!! Peace.

I agree with some of the points there - most of the content will be useful for years for the audience - and for now it means you will get a stream of end less followers - maybe a limited voting window is useful to make a fair distribution of the value within the community but 7 days looks like too short - I'd suggest to be carefull and not make huge changes on this but start experimenting - maybe with 10 days instead of 7 and see the outcomes, discuss with the community etc. resteemed

First thank you for your comment and the resteem.

You are probably right, steemit works and big changes could make things worst. But i think its important to improve these protocols, to provide the best possible for our community and the Steemit Blockchain.

Im the end the developers will decide what to du bit its a good thing to discuss and share ideas in our community.

Thank you so much for this post. I was actually wondering about what happened with the posts that were older than 7 days when people voted... I wish at the very least they would take the option out of voting if it doesn't contribute to anything.

Im glad this post helps you nswering your question. The possibility for voting on old blog posts truly isnt ideal :/

From what I remember, it takes resources to hold on to a post before payout. So that's why there's a limit of seven days.

I agree the search could be improved. I'd like to enter keywords and filter by tag or username.

I got the information that voting after 7 days isnt possible, because of the possibility of abusuing this trough Steem deligation.

Thank you for the feedback!

Yes, that's what I thought actually. But abusing allready happening even in seven days. I don't think time limit could effect that.

A good search function with many options is simply a must! And it's something that really should be achievable. Like how many days old (good for curators), minimum views, maybe recommendations to posts similar to what you liked previously. Minimum post size would be nice too, anything that makes finding decent posts easier. Having certain people I follow to show up first when they post.
I'd love to have infinite time on posts but it's less likely to happen :) also I keep pdf backup version of all my posts as I've noticed some images dissapear from older posts which is a pitty. Having 10 day post payout would maybe be doable :)

Hope they are working on a search funktion. I think that cant be that hard to implement. We had a discusion in german post about the time limit and the result was its needed to stop people cheating with milti votes trough delegations, which has 7 day cooldowns.

It's crazy because I have been thinking the same thing about both the search function and the time limit on payouts.

I agree that something needs to be done about the time limit because many people may visit your post after the 7 day period. Authors should still be able to benefit from the work they've produced even if it was a month old.

As for the search engaing on Steemit it needs to improve. There should be a suggestion feature something that allows the exact name or post you are looking for to pop up when searching. This makes it much quicker to find something you want to look at instead of having to scroll through countless numbers of posts.

Also I like what you did with the Dali art.

Hey mate glad you like, great feedback.
I see the time limit is most "pain" to creative content, like art, poetry, writing, musik...this kind of content is always actual.

Yes the missing search funktion is like not used potential. It would be a great tool to work with.

I just wanted to talk about this things with steemians to share oppinions. Lets see what Steemit will have for us in the future ;)

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