Mooches vs Givers! Who gets more in the end? [Pro Tips]
I see a lot of people who almost never, or literally never give up votes back to people even when they get up votes themselves. Whether it is posts or comments, you know the two types. Those who give up votes out and those who take them in. Which type really earns more?
The truth is those who give more up votes earn more! Why? Organically people like those on Steem that give to others and work to ensure good content is curated. If you are always self-upvoting your own posts and comments and rarely if ever giving your votes to others, what value have you really added?
In fact I could argue you are taking value from the rest of us, you are basically only providing yourself with votes while never contributing votes to your fellow Steemians! These practices are in direct violation of the very essence of what Steem was founded on.
I employ everyone to read the white paper but I will leave you with this quote from the white paper:
The naive voting process creates a N-Person Prisoner’s Dilemma whereby each individual voter has incentive to vote for themselves at the expense of the larger community goal. If every voter defects by
voting for themselves then no currency will end up distributed and the currency as a whole will fail to
gain network effect. On the other hand, if only one voter defects then that voter would win undeserved
profits while having minimal effect on the overall value of the currency.
- Page 14 of Steem White Paper: https://steem.io/SteemWhitePaper.pdf
Some people take selfishness to a whole new level. I know a user who makes a post and upvotes it, then makes multiple comments under the post and upvotes them all. If you comment on his post, he thanks you for commenting, replies your comment and upvotes his reply. He skips your comment. This guy wows me😂 like I don't know what specie he belongs to. I need to find out well cos he might be a member of the Homo erectus or Homo habilis 😂
But on a more serious note, I think steemit shoul consider making it impossible to upvote your own content, what d'yall think?
The issue with removing self voting is that it would have to be at a Steem blockchain level. This would be totally possibly but majority of witnesses would have to agree on it after a proposal was submitted and voted on.
And I know they can NEVER agree on that. For then, even whales would be begging other whales for upvotes
They will just make multiple accounts, that is why if you read the white paper (specifically the section I referenced) you will understand why it comes down to a community that wants it to succeed or it will implode!
Oooh that didn't even occur to me. By the way, I heard there is a bot that chases you around if you run multiple accounts
Lol you should read my post about private coins if you want to think that is possible (expired post so do not up vote it): https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@bigdeej/are-privacy-coins-really-private-does-a-private-coin-really-matter-who-is-satoshi-trap-doors-and-math-or-obfuscation
I'm on it.
You might also want to read my post on the current facebook and youtube saga 😊👍👍
Gotta add it to your post so it is linked. You always should include your link to a post IF it adds value. @shadowbot wrote a post about this actually recently:
The whole of steemit voted on that post😃😃
Welcome to @shadowbot ;) if you aren't a member already you should consider joining!
Please tell me who satoshi is and then I will believe you can use a bot to "chase you around if you run multiple accounts". AND even if you do run multiple accounts, that doesn't make it bad, what if I run 3 businesses, why shouldn't I be allowed to have 3 legit accounts? That is an arbitrary way to decide who is abusing and unfairly penalizes good steemians while abusers can still get around. Again, Who is Satoshi? Since you can't answer that, it proves why trying to tie accounts together is a terrible way to reduce abuse. Content alone is all that should matter.
These are the leaches and parasites I speak of in my post. This is also why we have @shadowbot! Our community seeks to destroy their foothold here!
@shadowbot destrooooooy them all.....
Removing self upvote might tone it down a bit but if I am not mistaken there are people out there with multiple accounts and they upvote those other accounts as well
yeah... it's amazing how many people out there do this. Aside from what you just said if people upvote posts and comments of others more people will come to your blog plus even when people comment they are spending time and thought to what they write otherwise a well thought comment would be valued the same as the good ol' "Great post, good work, upvote"
Oh well guess people just think differently
Wait you spent time to comment on my post? How dare you earn an up vote for that, especially if it added some insight or otherwise just was funny and original? Thanks for reading!
Haha upvotes are not for those who interact with us and if we need time to write an upvote we are most certainly do not deserve upvotes.
I enjoyed reading it and showing the 'Steem White Paper' brilliant maybe they just haven't read it yet...
I employ everyone to read through it even if you don't fully understand it all, it is written fairly straight forward and really helps explain what Steem is supposed to be.
I'm usually hesitant to upvote because I'm afraid my usefulness to the shadowbot community will diminish. Lately I have disregarded that caution and upvote things I like and find valuable. Im afraid this hasn't helped my voting efficiency and usefulness to the shadowbot community. I haven't been patient enough to check my voting efficiency on my dashboard.bHow do you find balance between the two?
I use a healthy balance, I try to use about 3% a day on up votes manually and let @shadowbot do the rest for me.
How do you know how much percentage you use?
When you have enough SP (around 500+) you will get a voting power sliding bar, that is what determines the weight of the vote you are casting. If you do not see a sliding bar when you click up vote you are casting a 100% power up vote which will cost you 2% of your Voting Power.