RE: Steemit Users: Stop Giving Away Your Content - People Are Stealing From You!
Yes, it was a false claim. I do believe he meant that they get upvoted instead of resteemed as I usually vote the nominations a day after the compilation post. That's why I started my explanation with "there might have been some misunderstandings".
You were also claiming a lot of false information about our project based on nothing such as:
created strictly to benefit financially from the content other people create
If an account wants to republish your content in full from their page, they are going to make money from content they didn't create. You will make $0.
They may promise you exposure. They may promise you some sort of reward. But I guarantee you, they are using you for content and taking money from your pocket.
These are all false claims against our project which would've taken less than a few minutes to check before stating this in your post.
Here is the latest compilation post that I have curated the nominations on, as you can see the first nomination is just under $30 and before I voted on it it was at around $5.
Anyway, apologize for the way he reacted to your comments. As I mentioned earlier he isn't part of the curation team anymore and that sort of attitude he was portraying there was visible often in the chat room as well.
You are asking why I am not giving this page a benefit of the doubt that you are not giving to me. I asked this person questions and got the above as answers, or in his lack of answering to them, I found my information. I am not making false claims, I am going off of what this person said. I made it very clear in my questions that I was "interested" but wanted to understand how participating benefited me. He failed to explain it or show it, so did I make false claims or am I merely going off of the (apparently erroneous) information provided? I appreciate you taking the time to correct what he said, however don't appreciate the tone that I am somehow intentionally providing false information. If someone explains something to me that sounds like garbage, why would I go looking for more information about it? I happily promote initiatives that have served me well, and I will also shine light on things that seem to exploit the content of others. The way this was represented made it seem that way to me. Wouldn't it seem that way to you? Are you then wrong for sharing the information provided? Are you "making false claims" or just believing what the person told you?
You are right, he stopped responding on the important questions you asked and went self-defensive.
I might not see it from the same point of view as you do since I have used the site for quite some time and its clear to me that you can easily check how your posts would've benefited from being featured in the @ocd compilation posts by seeing who the big vote supporters of the ocd posts are and who the big vote supporters of the posts they have nominated are. Also knowing that no one else so far has complained about it and all comments by the nominated authors in the ocd posts have been of a positive nature would've made it clear that we might not be as bad as you are trying to make us look in your post which lacks enough information about the project.
This is true, I wouldn't either.
But if I'm going to go ahead and write a whole post about it accusing it of this and that I would make sure to do some research on it before doing so. Not just base it all off of one person's comments about it.
My tone would've been different if it had been in a more general sense that there might be projects doing what you are stating, not directly attacking the one project that happened to stumble upon your post.
On the one hand, you acknowledge that you wouldn't further investigate something that's own representative made to sound like a scam, but on the other hand chastise me for not doing so. Why would I assume a person representing this initiative was wrong and I should check it out more before writing my post? I honestly shouldn't. Beyond that, from what you have explained, it seems a handful of curators get compensation and participants get exposure. I genuinely do not think that is worthwhile, and I am entitled to my opinion. I am relatively new here as well and you're making it seem like I should just know to 1. not believe your own representative 2. should know how to track the things you've mentioned - AGAIN: I didn't make "accusations", I gave my opinion on this initiative based on what one of your own representatives indicated to me. This wasn't "one persons comments about it", this was a person who is supposed to be knowledgeable and representing your initiative accurately. I love how that person was wrong but you are wagging your finger at me. There ARE other projects I have seen that are doing what I am stating, but I do NOT feel compelled or obligated to go searching for things I dismissed as a waste over a month ago. So far, my experience with now two representatives of your page leave me feeling frustrated, for what it's worth. As someone new here, I'd rather not deal with it. How am I supposed to know who has or has not complained? I also still don't get how "big vote supporters" is supposed to mean anything to someone new. I would urge you to, as a leader of this page, write out with some clarity what you do and how it benefits the content creator, and what happens with the funds you earn. You can't be upset people don't understand when your own team misrepresents you, and then scold confused people who feel like they were dealing with someone trying to poach their content. I mean really.
No, again, this is not true and it literally takes a few minutes to check that the authors do get more than just exposure and more rewards than the curators finding their posts.
It seems like you are only reading what you want to hear.
I'm not upset about people not understanding how it works. I do however get upset about the Project that I have created and spend a lot of time on combined with many others being called a scam. Especially since it was started after another Project took photos and content of others posts without asking permission and without even supporting the original posts with rewards.
I will take you up on your advice about explaining more in depth how it works to newcomers that can't figure out if they will get rewarded before they go pointing fingers that they are getting scammed.
I would've loved to see your reaction to being featured in the shady curation projects that I mentioned earlier, though.
Instead of telling ME to "go" do something, why don't you list it out here?? FFS! If you can't explain it well, if your people can't explain it well... I have yet to see what anyone gets other than traffic to their post in front of "big" voters, and YOU sharing the funds with your curators. If I missed something, ENLIGHTEN ME but you have to stop blaming ME for writing a post about something THE WAY IT WAS PRESENTED. This isn't the New York Times, it's my Steemit page, my experience with your person. And now you. Both of which leave much to be desired.
I already explained it in my first comment. Your post would get exposure through the OCD account and extra posting rewards which it wouldn't have received had those curators not stumbled upon it and nominated it.
The curators put time in for finding these posts in the masses and get rewarded for it through the compilation posts.
The compilation posts make about 10-12$ per nomination, the original posts make about 10-30$ extra depending on already accumulated rewards and rank in the compilation post.
From what I can tell chief made it also clear a couple times that you would get exposure and posting rewards in the comments. He didn't say you might get extra rewards or that there is a chance. He knows all accepted nominations get extra posting rewards.
Yet you still don't seem to get that that is part of it.
I asked him to explain what he meant by rewards. As a noob, who you guys are "trying to help" - I didn't know what that meant. I'm still not sure I do. I've only been here since June. From what you can tell: did he answer it at all? From his response, did he explain that to me in any way? Have you? Maybe that's why I "still don't seem to get that that is part of it". Ugh.
Ugh, indeed.