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RE: The haejin effect

in #steem6 years ago (edited)

Epic post! Had to resteem this. Or as you might call it: Thanks for showing your proof of brain again :-)

I agree that the platform (rather: the eco-system) has changed for worse, and here's my take:

No changes are made without changing the algorithm.

  1. You can't force people to post max. X posts per day as a sign of fairness towards the other competitors who're aiming to get their part of the rewards pool.

  2. You furthermore can't force anybody to produce something meaningful, since everybody has a different interpretation of that.

  3. You can't centralize a decentralized environment :-) Whether we can do what the hell we want to do (within the given frame), or not.

  4. You can change the algorithm (reward curve) and make selfishness, aggrandizement and other trendy stuff become unprofitable, thus unpopular. You can e.g. delete the trending page and solve one of the biggest problems of the platform. You can do things. Or you can sit and watch and even confirm on TV that your application has a quality problem...

Steem doesn't have a quality problem! Steem does have a structural problem. There are tons of high quality posts submitted on Steem every single day. They're just not visible to most of the community members.

But I think we've talked about all this a hundred times already :-)

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Thanks Marly!

We have spent a lot of time discussing the above.

The algorithm can change, and so can people - in an instant if they wish!

Pretty sure its only the 2nd that has changed in the past 6 months, and not for the best :/

Yes, an early adopter of Steemit, that recognizes that there is a lot of good quality content. I know what my content is, but I am not here to really "create" content, I am here to view the content. I am an audience member, a one person nielsen rater, a voter and a commenter on content. I find a lot of content on steemit that is worthwhile. Yes there is a lot of crap, but that just means I click away and find something else.

The greed issue on steemit really does not need to be a drastic overhaul. Fixing the greed issue that Asher has brought up only requires 3 changes, those 3 changes however will never be implemented because they have the potential to end the greed cycle.

  1. Limit self votes to two 100% up votes a day.
  2. When downvoting for rewards, be able to select the rewarder (the one big vote giver), and leave the posters Reputation unchanged, but the vote givers Reputation takes a hit. (No more pissed off whales slamming poor minnows, unless it is their vote that gets picked.) If multiple people downvote the same reward the hit to Reputation grows.
  3. Kill of all vote buying selling bots, manual and curation trails only allowed.

But I won't be holding my breath for any of those changes. At least more and more of these, here's a problem I see, what can we do to get a discussion going about it post.

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