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RE: More Great Things to Come
- We are already there
- There are some problems with the Cease and Desist:
- There is no legal entity except maybe the exchanges that could make a decision on this.
- The taken action is justified and necessary with a trademark. In this case because of the common nature of the word Hive it is impossible to trademark, and we have established prior art of the expression Hive to our activities already from before Hive Blockchain Technologies Ltd. in the Steem community.
- The behavior looks disgusting because of how Justin has framed it. In reality it's technologically the only sensible thing that can be done. The people that understand how DPoS works are now on the Hive side, those who don't now run the Steem network (because you cannot really call it a blockchain since the takeover). We mostly see worries that the Steem network won't technically survive until we got our money out, and we have a good laugh about the incompetence of Steemit Inc.
- It's funny to talk about shitcoins and forget how much TRX is undeniably a shitcoin. Together with that I think you can say STEEM is probably hard on its way to be the shitcoin in this situation.
- I don't see any whining babies on the Hive side, and everyone checking out is very well received, independent of how you position yourself so far. On the other side I do see people here who are confused about what ACTUALLY happened, and side with what they understand as reasonable until they get hit themselves by the shitshow that is going on and covered up here.
I agree fully about your perception of the situation. What Justin writes kinda seems reasonable. Except it doesn't match with his actions and so far we welcome mostly people on Hive who get bitten by the real beast going on here. Sorry that the Hive fork had to cut out the cancer in this dirty way. It isn't the best possible way to do it, but honestly for what it is I have never seen such a smooth and widely supported Hard Fork.
If you stay here, I wish you good luck with @justinsunsteemit and how they will manage the community here. And if things don't work out the way you want or expect it, you know where you will be welcome now.
well-stated!
H is just looking creepy after reading that. Desperate springs to HIVE/MIND. Stop Whining, your favourite investors lost and lied, move on.
Ps: Using spin like beast and cancer is dramatic and completely over the top. There is just no need for those brainwash type tactics unless you are trying to breed hate.
Lol what? You are just rambling here. Please do your research so you know what you talk about. This is not a spin. I am not even sure now what I commented here myself, because many posts are disappearing on the API and on steemit.com after a day. Neoxian did a test and yeah, it's creepy.
GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN.
My only issue with Hive is that they are being unnecessarily aggressive. They are not just moving on with a new fork, they are trying to shit on @zann.witnesses and other new witnesses, which are not sockpuppet accounts but actual communities. ZANN was around for a long time, a lively Korean community with their own interests.
If you co-owned a business and disagreed with the direction the shareholders decide you are welcome to make a new corporation to compete. But if you storm out of the building destroying office equipment on your way out that makes you a serious dick.
When your air is taken away you start struggling and you make unnecessary victims. This was a crisis escape and emotions grow high in those situations. That doesn't justify unjust treatment of people in those situations, we understand that people don't see the full picture and many people only see a man saying seemingly reasonable things about something that "is his property", but the people who understand how Steem works technically could only focus on getting the rescue team ready, honestly in a better way than I have seen a fork happen ever before. It's a shoot first, explain later situation. How smooth that went also shows how much technical understanding we have in the community.
As I stated before, I do think Steemit could still have its place, it might see better times again, but it doesn't follow the minimum conditions any more we want from it technologically, because technically it's undeniable that a hostile takeover has taken place, and we don't want to have any place in it. When we shit on other people while that happens it's out of worry and disgust that people might fuck themselves over, not out of disrespect for those people. When I shout and I look angry, it's because something happens that heavily concerns me. It might not be the best way to communicate it, but this was not the time to discuss. You don't discuss while a shark bites your leg off.
With current facts, what actually happens is the people peacefully leaving and the boss destroying office equipment.
That did not happen at all. Key members of the Hive community proved that they are people of low character. They did not at all "peacefully leave" the Steem community but went around downvoting anyone that disagreed with them.
When would you call someone of low character? What do you think about having principles? Also, I wouldn't call this leaving the Steem community, but moving the Steem community to a place of their own. The Steem community left the building.
If the Steem community "left the building" then we would not be debating the point. Nobody left.
I don't believe the thought leaders and witnesses of Hive are principled at all. They are of low character, as they are breaking every social norm on Steem they use to enforce.
I'm autistic. The kind of social norms you talk about are absolutely disgusting to begin with and hurt me.
The only two reasons I keep looking here is to get my Steem out, that being a lot harder now because Blocktrades is being softforked out of the system by Justin, petty revenge, and to inform about the absolutely horrible shit that is happening here. Every time when I think it can't go worse, it does.
This place is hell now. Check @blocktrades, you can't see any post there at all now.
Whatever you say about the people that created Hive, they could be the worst guys in the universe (and actually a significant amount is gals), but I am VERY thankful to them for jumping ship in time, as quick as they did. They made a judgement call and they were SO RIGHT. I hope you will understand that over time.
Farewell and thanks for all the fish.
I apologize if somehow my talk of "social norms" caused you discomfort. I can't know over the internet that someone has autism, but I'll try to keep in mind how that might impact your point of view.
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is a great book. :)
What causes me mostly discomfort is the abuse of a generally great idea as a force of destruction. I agree that social norms can be a great thing. I also think that when your house is being robbed, you take action first and think about manners later.
And yes I have seen reports about burglars filing damage reports because of people defending their stuff. Nobody thinks they are on the wrong side.