RE: Time To Wake Up and Fix Steem's Voting Problem
I have saved almost everything I earned into SP to be able to make something here (I have seen how interest in great quality posters have disappeared as soon as they have powered down) - I have been lucky that people from other networks are sending me bitcoin donations that I can live from.
But I am still interested in a Steemit that work instead of this ridiculous mess. Right now I upvote my own posts (never my own comments), but I would be OK with a hardfork that removed selfvoting altogether (or diminished it to two votes a day like @vcelier proposed) and then maybe a bit more reward to the curators.
You do not make people bike by telling them it is healthy and that your government welcomes it. You build bicycle tracks and put taxes on cars.
Crypto has one great thing - it has impartial, transparent rules. Let's change them... or lets vote for the witnesses who supports them.
Yea boy
It’s just hard to get a consensus of things, everything’s lost in the wind 99% of the time. Just hoping to nail a decent enough explanation in this one..
Yes, It sounded smart ass-ish. The democracy aspect of Steemit is not at all obvious to the general user. I think that there is a consensus among many users that a change to the voting system is important, but it is hard to get the discussion centralised enough when you only have posts :) As you can see I am willing to try some drastic measures, but I support of course to make curating more profitable. I could also imagine a scenario where self-voting was not build in at all, but it is hard to change such things when they have been an integrated part of the system.
what we need is a Facebook-like platform, that encourages posting aboutt anything and everything and that way, there are many things to learn about; sometimes people don't have the time to draft a post. they just want to state what's on their mind either for support or to start an interesting topic.
I see nothing that prevent you from doing this on Steemit, but if had 100 points/percent to place on two posts - one is posting a comic page that you know he used the whole week creating (like me) and the other posts fun trivia he finds on the internet, let's say he posts this new This Is America video by Childish Gambino. How would you use your points?
I do not think that you can make a perfect system. Social systems evolve after unexpected criteria, and if you want to turn it in another direction you just have to experiment. Steemit was never Facebook and I doubt that you can make it turn that much around. We somehow connect money with work, talent, effort.
I am on the federation, a free decentralised network that consists of many systems. That is the place I post like I would do on Facebook.
Point taken. I understand that it will be this way, but then the question. what is good content? For instance, when dealing with someone such as myself, you won't find screenshots of that much ... unless I had a sighted individual over my shoulder taking them. are my steem contributions seen as less due to lack of images?
I'll just have to say that my view of Steemit is just my view. I am still very in doubt what direction Steemit will take. That's the exiting and annoying thing about it.
Then you basically ask how to make the perfect post that gets attention... If I knew I would be on the trending page - and I am not. But here are my observations.
I guess an image is good. I place a small image in the top. 1.75:1 format that will look nice in the feed (Example)
It is a good thing to comment a lot. Make it good interesting comments that are about the post like the one you made in this tread. I am aware of you now because you did for example.
Find some profiles with people who do what you like to do, writing many small posts. I can mention @steevc for example. (he is also the master commenter)
Remember that it takes time to build the network. I write for the people who likes my comic, illustrations and art, who are interested in my texts on music and other art, and who comments on my posts. Often I even get ideas from posts because some of them wrote something in a posts or comment. (example)
Last: Steemit is not fair. If you have the connections you will get upvoted. There can be so many reasons for this. Alliances, gaming of the system, political strategy, friendship (I have made some very good friends here that I never have meet (except @vcelier - who actually visited me), and last - sheer luck.
I know it's not fair. I learned that real quick. I'm up here for the community anyways, but the rewards are nice. of greater concern, though, is my open source project account. that's the one I want getting all the votes. I'm pretty sure that will happen soon. It's just however long it takes me to become an efficient programmer all by myself, I think. That account is @stormlighttech, which I update weekly, for the moment, at least.
Your last sentence seems to indicate that witnesses could change the way this blockchain works. But so far it looks like they don't have this much influence. Do you really think they can?
The witnesses have to agree (or a percentage of them at least) for a hardfork to be a reality - they are the miners of Steem and they participate in discussions with Steemit inc. about what to do. You can vote for them in the right menu.
Right now this representative democracy is not that well working - many people doesn't know how the system works.
See this post: https://steemit.com/witness-category/@someguy123/seriously-what-is-a-witness-why-should-i-care-how-do-i-become-one-answer
This only means that witnesses can block change, not that witnesses can actually implement change. In practical terms today, witnesses can't. Over time it is possible that development could evolve toward a more decentralized approach but there is at best only slow progress in that direction.
True. I just have to admit that. A veto is of course not representative democracy... That was just plain wrong - wishful thinking from my side.
I think we're on the same line. The chances are small the witnesses will some this. Looks like they didn't do anything as of I started with Steemit in January....
In my conversation with smooth the issue was apparent, most open-sourced projects field ideas and contributions from lots of people, but here steemit inc is the one that pushes ideas and code and it's a mostly closed process.
Steemit inc can't force a hardfork without the witnesses agreeing. I found this old post by @someguy123 - it seems to sum up the basics.
https://steemit.com/witness-category/@someguy123/seriously-what-is-a-witness-why-should-i-care-how-do-i-become-one-answer
Not forcing a hardfork and open dynamic collaboration are very different things.
True again...
Well, this is very, very old in steemit terms, and some of the numbers referenced are outdated.
It is, but it does explain the concept of witnesses. For a more precise idea of the latest hardfork you should consult the white paper.