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RE: I think we lost some 'frequent' top level contributors

in #steem6 years ago

Very interesting. Note that the top "hanger on" after the fork still reduced his posting by about 80%. That's progress.

Well we know that restricting activity so severely based on SP is going to affect spammers, since they tend to take all their money out and leave themselves always with fairly low SP. They don't want to upvote anyone and make more getting others to upvote them than by self-voting.

Do you think there is a way you could collect data on moderate posters with average or better UA scores in this same way, pre and post fork?

I think it's important for us to get an idea of the cost-benefit of the change in cutting spam without cutting newbie participation.

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This side of things show good progress to me too.

Do you think there is a way you could collect data on moderate posters with average or better UA scores in this same way, pre and post fork?

'moderate' doesn't compute very well, give me a number :)

I don't think a full list of UA scores is available yet, but i will ask.

I think it's important for us to get an idea of the cost-benefit of the change in cutting spam without cutting newbie participation.

Agreed. But lets face it, newbie participation has been reduced. What to exactly, I am not sure. Hopefully they can write a post a day, with a few votes and comments.

The goal, for non-investors who wish to blog/engage, is to read up and hit the ground running. One curie/dtube/utopian vote will give them much more freedom.

I can see discord becoming busier too as people wish not to 'waste' credits on chatter, instead saving their RCs for kick-ass comments (which are much likely to receive a vote).

I was turning back on my smartsteem autovote today and saw a new metric for allowing my vote to be used. It was the UA scores. That had a 2 as average. Actually average started somewhere around 1.7 buy I forget the exact number.

I'd be really interested to see that data. Not that it would be complete. The reality is, most people who are newish aren't even measured by UA scores. And the ones who are average are probably having 40SP or more like our surviving spammer above. Still, might be as close as we can come to having some indication of quality posters who have stopped posting.

Smartsteem has access to the UA data, I'm still waiting on a reply to see if a snapshot is available for the likes of myself.

The other day, I tested a few things on a new alt with 3 SP - @misterengagement.

They were able to create a posts, edit it twice, and comment twice. Editing seemed to cost the most in RCs. When it is fully charged, I will post and then comment and see how far it gets.

I see a few initiatives have sprang up asking for people to put their/others names forward for a small delegation. Looking at the replies, there are not many takers. Does this mean most people are 'OK' / still silenced / have left already?

I think it means most people don't want a second job of having to manually run the RC system instead of just having sound rules.

The people who would most need to put themselves forward are less likely to come across the invitation to or be able to comment to act on it.

I think one thing that keeps getting left out is the experience of the person who just joined Steemit or one of the other dapps. They don't know what's going on yet. They aren't in discord servers. They aren't following witnesses or even really knowing who they are. They just know that they can't do much on here before it says they're out of power. They don't even know when they are supposed to come back expecting to see it changed.

The red/blue bar STINC is using to highlight their posts to the entire community is good. I think anything speaking to real newbies to invite them to request more RC delegations should be in the comments on whichever of those posts is currently in the top bar, and folks should use self-voting to make sure their comments along those lines wind up at the top of the considerably long comment thread on those posts. And a way should be included to respond that doesn't require any RCs.

... also, forgot to ask, why did you use 3 SP as your standard?

I'm still trying to find out how much SP someone gets when they land on the Steemit site now and sign up on their own. What experience does that person wind up having right now?

3 SP used to be (pre-HF20) the minimum account size basically. You could create an account with 3 Steem, and that Steem would get powered up into the new account (so in essence it didn't cost anything, since the Steem was still there and just had been transferred from you to the new account) adn the new account with have 3 SP. So there are a ton of accounts with 3 SP out there

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