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RE: How would you like rewards to be allocated?

in #steem6 years ago

I'd love to see a page-impressions model. Which pages, which posts (regardless of age) generate the most traffic to the platform? There would be a good market for Steemit Inc to then use their stake to provide votes to that content that captures an external audience, especially now that they've got ads on their front end.

Engagement, however, is a huge thing - but there has to be a way to determine real engagement versus the typical "nice post, deer" that we all remember from the early days. With the change to RCs, that isn't as common, but there's a lot of really hollow comments that don't provoke discussion on a lot of posts.

The sad thing is that they aren't comments like "This post made me so speechless, all I can give you is a vote." They're the sorts of engagement that don't provide any evidence that the post has even been read.

An interesting way, like you said, would be the relationships between accounts. I had an incredible interaction with @mayb on a recent post of mine, and ever since then, by following them, I've uncovered a few other Steemians who engage in a deep, meaningful, and intellectual manner.

I guess that's the sort of people that I'm chasing, and the sort of content that I enjoy.

The fact that this place is somewhere genuine engagement and intellectual satisfaction can sometimes be found makes it feel like a much more mature environment, and I try to reward that wherever I see that happening.

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I was so happy to read your comment that I upvoted before even checking the context! :D So, mayb read it first …

Now I've read it all and I love the idea. One of my latest posts was about the commenting behavior which is definitely improvable. I agree with both of you, @holoz0r, @liberosist. I want to find those people who truly engage and amaze me with their different opinions. A lot of the steem experience, for me personally, is the part of leaving my comfort zone, learning new things and I like all those challenges. We all can profit from communicating more. Monetary and in our personal growth.
Below my above-mentioned post @frankbacon left this hilarious comment:

… still looking for that one interface that has it all! Show me interaction, show me where the party is right now, notify about what my steem friends are discussing when I come online.

Perhaps a trending page that detects genuine discource in the comments section of a post might do.

Do you use Steempeak? It's an excellent front-end. You can save drafts, schedule posts, and save your favourite topics. For responses, I use a combination of Ginabot via discord, partiko (when I'm not at the computer) and most importantly, the stuff that lives between my ears - the original plan for Steem.

Proof of brain. :)

I am using … look for yourself … Bildschirmfoto 20190515 um 12.58.05.png

And I love it. Btw, @chekohler was going to write a post this week to make some suggestions for steempeak. So, he should also be part of our communication, I feel.

But yet you're not using the night mode! :) @jarvie and @asgarth are really approachable as some of the driving forces behind steempeak. They're done a phenomenal job that has gone very unrewarded to date.

I am also a Steempeak user, and use the beneficiary mechanism to pass 5% of my author rewards for each post I make to Steempeak. It's easy, and hope lot's of folks do the same.

SEE?!? That was what I forget to mention in my last comment! I was going to say "but there's still a lot I haven't fully explored in the dapp. It's simply not that neat&clean as assbook or twatter. Nightmode??? FTW! CHECK!

Unfortunately, I've recently reactivated by assbook, asstagram, and I never left twatter. It's all part of a ploy to try and get some more people across to this platform where they may actually be rewarded in a minuscule way for their content, words, and opinions.

It'll be a slow burn, and I've tried before. I'll try some more. It's much easier to turn a creative, thinking, breathing thing into a crypto person than it is to turn a normie into a crypto person.

most definitely. It takes the will to learn and the creativity to overcome frustrations that might appear in a phase like that where everyone is still figuring out how we want to 'manage' this whole community. I believe in us. First, improve the blockchain, then the world! 🚀

That would be a far more useful trending page IMHO. Still, given the pandering rampant on Steem, the comments of folks pandering would still skew such a metric, albeit to a lesser degree than payout.

I reckon that we should each be able to create filters that recommends content to us, and that a real world reputation metric that is truly subjective would be a great utility for that purpose. There's probably not a better gauge than you suggest for an outward facing trending page, as folks not on Steem can't be availed of such a reputation metric. Engagement is probably the very best metric for such an outward facing trending page.

Thanks!

Edit: also, your parrot seems broken, you pirate. =p

I'm yet to see a comment earn more than the post it is linked to for providing additional context or opinion; that isn't charged by a self-vote army, or some unscrupulous vote trading. That would be neat to see. Perhaps the "value" of all comments on a post relative to the actual post itself would be an interesting metric to show true engagement.

i.e post is $1.00, value of votes for comments is 0.20c, votes are from other parties that are not the post author or comment-leaver. That could have an engagement score of 20%, or something. Just thinking out aloud. :)

Regarding the "parrot": It's a chicken! The pet of my soon to be mother in law. It is named "Special". It once tried to wander into a pre-heating oven on its own accord. She's a silly chicken.

I have seen comments that organically were upvoted higher than the OP, but it's not common at all.

Chickens are the most vicious predators I have ever met the gaze of. I am damn glad to be larger than them. Prolly make good pets.

"The sad thing is that they aren't comments like "This post made me so speechless, all I can give you is a vote." They're the sorts of engagement that don't provide any evidence that the post has even been read."

I find it a bit funny that the comment you refer to is exactly an example of comment that doesn't provide any evidence of actual engagement.

Thanks!

Irony is a great mistress. :)

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