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RE: STEEM has no future if it does not preserve its fundamental source of value: 100% human curation

in #steem7 years ago

I was on facebook for quite a few years.
it wasn't ABOUT blogs...it was for discussion.
I liked it pretty good until they began to censor political discussion.
I found steem
then I bailed...been over a year now and I haven't been back.

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WDYT about my idea about using an external site to completely eliminate censoring (by whales) on STEEM by providing external visibility so that people don't need to use the feed pages or trending page?

I'm thinking of basically converting my web site into a poor man's version of an alternative portal. It wouldn't actually be a portal, but it would provide enough information to make it possible to use STEEM without ever looking at a feed page.

I don't think much of it.
for one I'm not too concerned about being censored by a whale.
I avoid whales and they've avoided me.

For another thing...why?
why risk your keys with another site?

I've already been censored by a whale, and I have already seen that discussion here is totally chilled by fear of the whales. My experiment with discussing the possibility that IQ varies significantly by race exposed the chilling on this platform.

What I have in mind won't require any keys. It will be a zine platform where people can publish zines that provide links to posts anywhere on the Internet. Initially, there won't be any automation; it will all be 100% human curation the old fashioned way: editors.

go for it.
let your editors do the censoring instead of whale.
seems reasonable to me.

Yeah, but I will host anyone who wants to publish a zine. The zine editors will compete with each other for credibility, objectivity, thoroughness, etc. My web site will be a sort of magazine market, except that the articles in each zine will just be links into STEEM (or to any other web page). Although these zines might also contain content, their primary role will be to make it easy for readers to find content on the Internet.

two suggestions
one: go for it
two: not yet...'communities' (coming rilly soon) might make it lots easier.

The web site is already converted. I just haven't announced it yet because I came across a bug and have been working on that. I'll be taking a close look at communities, as well as another look at the API. Today I made a decision to commit to this goal. I'll use my own software as well as whatever capabilities the API has and also whatever communities adds. This is going to happen.

It will happen a lot faster if a few people volunteer to learn how to write "knowledge trees" and then put together some some simple zines. For example, someone could do a zine that covered STEEM development news. That would be tremendously helpful to me and probably of great interest to lots of people.

IOW, I will provide the platform and the invitation; others, hopefully many, will provide the content.

now that I think of it.
there's an app for that.
for wordpress if I recall.
it transfers the blog to Steemit.

not the same thing?

my opinion on your IQ posts.
you were asking for it.
so...you got it.
so why complain?

I don't remember having any problem with you, but I did take note that you didn't touch that particular post of mine, and I'm sure that it's not because you had nothing to say on the topic. :)

Censorship doesn't just come from whales. It can also come from "mob thinking", peer pressure, fear of social ostracism, ... I'm envisioning a free speech zone on the Internet where (1) no one is afraid to speak a prohibited viewpoint or open a discussion on a prohibited topic, and (2) no one is afraid to participate in such a discussion, and (3) there is a community spirit that welcomes ANY topic and thoroughly enjoys fully hashing it out wherever doing so will lead.

The University of Chicago was, to some extent, like that, when I was a student there in the late 1970's.

since we're being frank.
I figured that what you were doing was asking for a beat down..."I DARE YOU".
well someone did.

besides...the differences in genetic IQ are negligible compared to other factors.
not worth getting vapors over.

It's clear to me from my initial review that the evidence is strong that IQ varies by race, and that this unsavory idea is being suppressed in society. Such a possibility has hugely important implications, and it could be a breakthrough in finally ending racism in the United States. But no one dared to even discuss the possibility with me here on STEEM.

Democracy and self government require the kind of freedom to speak that I am proposing. And it is clear to me that this platform is even MORE censored than Facebook is. That needs to be fixed, not for the sake of any particular platform, but for the sake of humanity.

go for it.
I'll cheer you on.
Pass the beer?

and you weren't censored..
you were downvoted.
you just got downvoted by someone with a LOT of throw weight.
pick on the big boys....piss em off....get squashed....law of nature.

Making a post hidden is censoring. And I think I know just what to do to eliminate it.

it's not hidden.
it's greyed out..."just ignore the man behind the curtain'
anyone who wants to can read it..
kinda like the NSFW tag...only it's imposed by higher fire power.

Grayed out now can become inaccessible in the future. These people just don't get it. They are technologists. Probably have never had a deep thought about society, free speech, etc.

you're talking about programmers?
their mommies dress them funny too.

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