thanks for your comment.. i think well never really know, esp since most of it is under an NDA.. i trust ned less than JS.. esp with the abuse weve given him over the years.. that in itself is proof of how being really abusive really doesnt help in the long term.. If we had been a bit more civil with him over the years, and found a way to communicate our issues without berating him into the ground, maybe he wouldnt have sold us out!