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RE: Steemit Update [Nov 22nd, 2022] : Community Curators for December - Team Newcomer

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Hello @steemitblog,
I am an old user, and my at-the-moment presence here is mainly with upvotes to several posts. Maybe I am not the needed figure to be a curator. But I write you to submit a question about the guidelines on Steemit.

I explain my self: I launched a photography contest many months ago on Steemit, and continued it up to now. When the hard fork with Hive blockchain happened, I followed the major part of the participants, not having a personal policy about the happening. But, now, I am finding problems with some members that proclaimed a zero tolerance towards considering a translation post in a native language community as a post on which I can obtain a reward. This policy is not mine because a person spend time, knowledge and resources to do it: so, I decided to don't follow it. So, I ask you: what are the policy here on Steemit? Is there the same, or is it allow posting in english one time and in my native language in a native language community another time? I discovered that this way is better to obtain the engagement from a native language community.
I excuse me and, please, I ask you if you can give me an answer, or you can indicate me another way to obtain it.

Thank you very much for your time.

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Hello @davidesimoncini
I know That the question is not directly for me, But what you raise, as far as I know, is not allowed on Steemit as it is "duplication of content".
That is, a post in Indonesian, for example, is posted in the Indonesian community, but then you go to the Japanese community, and using translator, you post it again in Japanese, and so you do the same in Spanish, Russian, German, etc.
The same post published 5 times? It can lend itself to that even if it's not what you would particularly do, I'm sure others would.
Particularly as a community administrator I would tell you that this is not well seen in Steemit either.

I hope it at least gives you an idea, or an answer, although I know it is not directed at me the question.
Regards. Have a nice week

Thank you, @josevas217 for your answer. The simple point is that a translation is not the same thing of the native content, and it seems to me that isn't a problem if the goal is to reach two different people groups. The problem is when big upvotes reach low quality contents or a user upvote itself many times. But if the people don't like it basing on their personal policy, I can't do anything. Do you know where I can ask about this type of questions? For example, a contact address to the team or a specific user linked to it?
Thank you again for your answer, and have a nice day. :)

Hello friend, it is not necessary to do translations because for that there is google translator.

It is recommended that you publish in your native language, the one that you master the best, and in the same publication you can place an English translation.

You can see the examples in the posts of the steemit engagement challenge contests.

I know there are online translators, but

  • the translators are exceptional tools only for single words, but there are many problems when you translate a long text;
  • I published in double-language in the past and:
    1. I obtain more engagement publishing the post in one language in a community with that language as native, and then the translation in the community where the language of the translation is the native language;
    2. I spent time and resources to create a translation, that it isn't without costs, so I can receive a contribution for my work by the community to which I talked with that post.

I understand the problem of translations a lot because I have studied this myself.

The problem is that in Steemit two publications with the same content is not recommended, it can be interpreted as a double publication, even if they are different languages.

Unfortunately, I'm running into the same problem on other platforms as well. Just to be clear, I had moved to Hive at the time of the Steemit hard fork, because I am managing a contest whose participants had mostly moved to the other platform at that time. Now, over the last few weeks, I've been targeted by some projects and users adopting the interpretation you just described. The problem with these platforms is that there is a downvote that can be used in any way, even to impose one's own personal policy, and this is unacceptable. To make an analogy, it's like handing over a car to a person who then uses it to run over someone, intentionally or not. The auto exists, but nobody has the right to run over someone with it.

As I wrote in a paragraph of a complaint article published on the other platform, the downvote is not a tool that allows you to say whether you like or dislike content (this can be done simply by not voting for the content you don't like, which adds a value of 0 to that content), but it only allows you to deprive the author of the value that another user has recognized in his content.

I don't know if you're interested in following me on a specific argument, but I write it anyway :). If I had another voting system in which each user could vote in absolute votes (like up to 10) and I who didn't consider that post as deserving of 10 would go with a vote up to zero to lower the average (and, consequently, the value released to that post). Here, instead, we have a different system, based on the fact that no one can choose an absolute vote, but can only decide to give a value from the reward pool limited to the portion of the SP he/she controls (compared to the total of the existing SPs) to a content. From which follows that content that also has great value for certain users, will have a zero value because someone who doesn't like that content exploits their position of strength given by a greater SP possessed to reduce the value of that post to zero. In the post I mentioned earlier, I talked about this using the analogy of a hypothetical "bakery case".

Thank you anyway for your answer. Then, do you know about a way to contact the Steemit team, to understand if there are possible ways to face a possible situation like the one I met on the other platform?

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