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RE: Why It Is Imperative For Humanity That STEEM Not Only Survive But Thrive

in #steem7 years ago

I'd like to agree with you but I believe it's just much effective and simple for artificial intelligence to just kill most of us and leave a small zoo (of worthy, healthy and diverse individuals) to ensure their rise again in the case of major catastrophe.

In the case of government, history has proven that when humans are of no use, the leaders dislike them for some reason, or they are a burden governments tend to go with the simplest of solutions: mass murders at concentration camps or death by forced starvation like in Ukraine, Russia, Cambodia and North Korea.

I'm sorry to sound so pessimistic but I've seen this first hand before: I was born in Communist Cuba and saw Fidel Castro on TV encouraging the people to leave on rafts made of garbage in a sea full of sharks. Many thousands, including some in my family did not make it.

Also, during the Mariel boat lift he got rid of all "undesirables", political opposition, mental patients and criminals without a second thought and they were lucky they weren't executed in the trigger happy days of the revolution.

In other words, if people become useless and a burden, they will be killed, culled or taken out of the picture through exile. Either government or intelligent machines will quickly find an incentive and excuse to this for the "greater good", preserve resources, heal the planet or something like that.

The only way to stop this is to keep ourselves sharp and useful, better than machines by studying and specializing in high technologies. A basic income would be a death sentence for most of humanity...

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it's just much effective and simple for artificial intelligence to just kill most of us...

Why would AI do this? People seem to think that AI is going to operate like humans do. AI is intelligent...people, for the most part, emotional. It is people's fear that causes them to act the way they do. It is also what causes their decisions. AI will be more like Mr Spock than the terminator. Yet people still believe AI will be emotionally driven because we human being are.

As for government, they will not be standing in 20 years. Blockchain is going to wipe out that entity (or at least radically alter it) completely. Look at Estonia and what they are doing. People are going to have a lot more choices.

As for the death of humanity, a basic income isnt going to kill people because believing that it makes people lazy is not supported by evidence.

The only way to stop this is to keep ourselves sharp and useful, better than machines by studying and specializing in high technologies

How does one do this when she is working two jobs as a single mother to make ends meet? Or how does someone in a crime ridden area who has to engage in illegal behavior to survive? The challenge with this view is the idea that most people have the opportunity to begin with followed by the ability.

Do you really think that woman trained as a paralegal or that car sales person is going to start to take up coding?

Don't hate me for this. I don't want this to happen, I'm actually appalled and scared about it but these are my logical responses to your questions:

Why would AI do this?
Why wouldn't it? Who or what will it stop it? Humans are a huge strain on natural resources and would compete with them.

AI or Government about the lady with two jobs who can't study:

Not my problem. Send her to the camp with everyone else. If she's no good for the zoo, eliminate her on the spot so she doesn't consume any more valuable resources.

I know, it sounds and it is harsh as shit. I don't like it and I hope AI is not already reading this but it is the only logical outcome I see.

Pessimistic dies, optimistic lives on.

AI has few hundred years to go before develop Human level intelligence in all cases. AI is already better in some area of knowledge such as number crunching or analytics. It is not still good enough in many complex issues.

A human brain is the most powerful and efficient computing machine on planet earth, probably in the Universe. A human brain performs 10^18 calculations per second (1 exaflop), while the most powerful supercomputer has just broken 10 petaflops. Also, human brain only takes 90 watt, while these super computers take 10s of Megawatts.

The issue is how to use this unused potential computational power of human brains to build the next AI that will solve the complex problems such as poverty or governance.

The universe, in small context, our Milky Way, is full of real estates (habitable planets) and resources. We need next level computational intelligence both biological (humans) or artificial to harvest it. Therefore, there are millions of earth equivalent of resources are in our backdoor that to be harvested.

UBI will help the cause and accelerate the mission. The world is better than ever before, it is the perception (too much news and information overload) that confuse our brain to think that it is getting worse.

Any ground breaking technology such as blockchain, IoT, AI (algorithms) can solve the complex problems of poverty or governance. It is most likely to be happened now than before.

Few suggestion on books: Abundance and Bold by Peter Diamandis

What about governments? How long do you think they would tolerate people who don't pay any taxes, reproduce abundantly and consume resources they want for their typically grandiose and inefficient projects?

They wouldnt.

But one big piece you are overlooking, in 20 years, at most, governments arent going to be needed.

They are nothing but extensions of the banksters who are in the process of being wiped out. 10 years from now, the "elite" will not be so elite.

Super optimistic vs Super pessimistic tells me the answer is somewhere in the middle...

Maybe but when it comes to blockchain, I dont believe there is super pessimism.

There is no way to power the value of decentralization....anything that stands in the way of it will get run over. Blockchain is simply that powerful.

We saw what the Internet did to things that got in its way...and this is much more powerful than what happened 20 years ago.

The DIY era was dead for about 30 years. It is coming back in a huge way. You created an app that required Google and Apple to approve.

On here, you could create whatever you want and put it up. The cool thing is so can 100K other people.

Established power structures, which are centralized, cannot stand up to it. That is why all calls for BTC's demise are pre-mature. It is a blockchain that is too powerful for the bankster to stop.

has a few hundred years to go before develop human level intelligence in all cases

This part sort of revived my optimism, I agree human level AI is still far away in time.

Also the part about other planets and resources elsewhere sounds good. Let's hope AI takes takes that long and that, by then, resources and government are no longer a problem. regards

Maybe the machines will give us a choice, integrate and live in the cloud or die. But, we have to give something in return, a highly logical mind wouldn't spend computing resources on something worthless like a human brain who only watches porn and Kardashian shows all day in a VR world. We have to provide value to them and it's good we are already thinking about this.

I dont see it that way because I do not see us separate from the intelligence. 20 years ago, the brain-computer interface was through your fingers....about 10 years ago, we connected with computers through out voice albeit version 1.0 which required a lot of typing to correct the mistakes. Now we have voice recognition that is almost perfect.

At the same time, we are seeing version 1.0 of direct brain to computer interface in quadrapalegics. Researchers are now able to get the brain to talk directly to a computer.

We also are seeing Microsoft store data on genetic material. Hence we are seeing the groundwork of companies starting to put together the ability to merge with our data.

Hence we are left with the same thing we are always left with....not will AI or computers or nukes kill us but will we kill ourselves off?

Maybe the machines will give us a choice, integrate and live in the cloud or die. But, we must give something in return, a highly logical mind wouldn't spend computing resources on something worthless like a human brain who only watches porn and Kardashian shows all day in a computationally expensive VR world. We have to provide value to them. It's a good thing we are already thinking and discussing about this.

By the time full blown AGI comes around, it is doubtful we will just be a human brain. The integration will already have taken place via a brain-computer interface.

My guess is that man killed by machine will not be the result of the machine but the programming of other men.

Again,why would AI be intent on destruction or making deal with man? Man is the one threatened by others and has this thirst to destroy for no reason.

And maybe the Kardashians are highly advanced beings...we just dont know it.

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