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RE: Hardfork complete but not as planned.

in #steem5 years ago

please do. as i looked at all his accounts and did not find any transaction that would show any connection to any old witness.
would be interesting to see what did security team say.

and as you do that, ask about roundbeargame to. because he was a small account that was a bit to vocal about what is going on, but i am sure that he had nothing to do with hive, nor he could do anything with his few thousend steem that he owned.

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Here is the response from our security team:

There was (insider) info that this ninja-mined account belongs to one of the hive witnesses (who also ninja-mined with other accounts) and attacked the steem blockchain. That is why it was initially included.

However, the blockchain record itself does not show any direct evidence, so the community decision based on SPS may return the stake.

As I stated earlier, the confiscated funds are not in the community account to enrich ourselves. Some people from Hive again and again try to make others believe in their false claims, but this does not make those more true.

There are already discussions happening about how to proceed from here on. If someone thinks that he should not be in that list, the community can decide to return his funds anytime.

the blockchain record itself does not show any direct evidence

it does not show any direct or indirect evidence. so it was done on a rumor about an anonymous miner from 4 years ago.

by community you mean @dev365? if everyone currently holding steem on the blockchain voted for SPS, would they be able to outvote steemit (justin)?

what was the reasoning for moving funds in an private account purposefully created anonymously? you could created an account. you could have move it to SPS. why liquid?

also why roundbeargames got his steem taken? he was vocal about korean community and justin sun, but he had nothing to do with hive, did not spam, amount of steem he had was funny to be any threat to steem. he was on the list just because he was not liked by korean leaders.

You must understand, there is no transparency in this actions, there is no info. A lot of things are done, to put it mildly, shady. New witnesses that pop up few hours before the HF, voted in by steemit, as steemit claims they have nothing to do with the HF.
Witnesses playing dead for all the questions. you are the only witness that had a decency to even write a comment.

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Some people from Hive again and again try to make others believe in their false claims, but this does not make those more true.

Simply calling them false claims also does not make them false. It's important that questions be answered even when they come from those who may hold an opposing viewpoint.

If the SPS is to be the means by which the funds may be returned, then why not put the funds into the SPS? Why have they been transferred as liquid to a separate account? Secondly, if you were open to instantly liquidating their funds, then why not simply do that and give it to them...and ask/tell them to leave. I have often seen witnesses express a desire for Steem to be left alone by those who wish to only be in Hive. By stealing the funds, you almost guarantee retailiation. This isn't good for Steem.

If the SPS is to be the means by which the funds may be returned, then why not put the funds into the SPS? Why have they been transferred as liquid to a separate account?

I don't think that those funds belong to the SPS, which is a community account for paying developers and promising projects for the Steem blockchain. By separating the accounts it's currently ensured that they can't be used spontaneously for other purposes (as you might know, the transfer operation is now blocked for that account).

Of course, the SPS can still be used to propose returning the funds for one or more accounts at the same time in one proposal. If the major stakeholders agree that funds should be returned, the community will make it happen.

as you might know, the transfer operation is now blocked for that account).

I do know now, but why wasn't it that way before? Can you understand why that would make one skeptical? I still think we, Steem, would be better off if you simply gave those accounts the liquid and asked them to leave...even if you did it on some kind of timeline to not flood the market. You should speak to your fellow witnesses and start digging us out of this quagmire you've gotten us into.

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