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RE: The Sustainability of Steem - Is Freemium Broken?
If nothing of value is actually free what is air, or partiko and any of the numerous open source projects out there and countless freeware?
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So you think partiko is free? Why are they asking people to delegate them SP? And all software development costs money, or at least the developer time/energy, it just depends who pays for it.
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It doesn't matter how much it costs to run or create, what matters is if the apple is free, and that is determined by the offer. If I offer free apples or free software, the offer is what makes it free, unencumbered.
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Sometimes (or maybe always) not all costs are clearly defined in the deal. If those who create the free apples pollute your environment by pesticides, than the "free" apple is not that free for you anymore.
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Indeed, indirectly they might cost you something but the argument is flimsy at best as you could argue that by not using pesticides to combat an infestation or pest invasion it could cost much more, directly and indirectly, and essentially ruin a lot of hard work. Ultimately it doesn't matter because free apples or not pollution by pesticides isn't there because the apple is free and will be there even if you pay full price for the apple. When it comes to the matter at hand, if the offer is free and unencumbered, then the product is free, yes there's all kinds of hidden costs but essentially we are talking about costs in a broad manner and indirectly instead of direct cost, or cost as exclusively in terms of what the product is priced/offered for.
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Leaving the air aside, these things are not free as in that they don't cost anybody anything, right? If you are an open source developer, you just make OSS because you enjoy making it, or someone is paying you to make it. Others are then free to use it, yes, but the added value does not come out of thin air.
Anyway, it is all said in the article...
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No, they are free as in they don't cost anything, like air, to have and utilize. If you want to argue that those things cost someone else time and energy that doesn't make those products or things not free. Also if you consider that ideas and eurekas generally come directly out of thin air, the added value of those ideas and eurekas does come directly out of thin air.
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You could say nothing is free and there's something in it for the creators. In the case of something like @dtube they take rewards, in the case of something like Steepshot or other addons to this platform whilethey may not directly charge, the attention and notoriety and power they get helps buildtheir accounts andthey can sell that steem. nobody does something for nothing
You could but then what would freeware and things such as partiko which DON'T take a cut or cost anything be? Clearly there are PLENTY of people who offer things for free, which makes the thing free, even if the ones making such offers are getting something like joy or happiness from it.
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I guess my point is there's almost always a motive or reason for doing something.Not saying that's a bad thing its just human nature.
My point is that regardless of the motivation or the costs of bringing something to market, if the thing is priced as one cent then it costs one cent, and if it's offered for free, then it's free and arguing that "it costs someone time and energy" or "they're doing it because they get something out of it" only speaks of what it costs to produce or what the motivation to bring it to market is, but it says absolutely nothing about what it costs the consumer, which is expressed quite simply by what it costs a consumer to purchase it, or how much it is offered to them for.
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So you downvote people who try to have a discussion with you? Cool bro I'll be sure not to engage with you onthis platform anymore.
I didn't downvote you, I upvoted your comment.
You got flagged by Bernies trail
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