Are you mainly voting your early friends and/or do you still look out for newer accounts?
I'm up to date with replies on yesterdays pie requests and hopefully, after a sleep, I'll be ready to produce some charts for whoever would like them.
Today's data-pull is based on a comment I read on @acidyo's post in which he presented his pies (with a few bonus 2017 pies) on votes issued to higher/lower SP accounts, and to which 'class' of account:
...It is natural to vote for friends, the same would happen in the real world. Often those friends have the same account age... @fullcoverbetting on acids post here.
Yep, could be something interesting here, time to get to work...
So, what to expect?
Based on the above comment, I do agree that their are likely to be 'pockets' of accounts that joined around the same time, made friends, and have continued to support each other. This may be more prominent for older accounts, but I think is still the case for newer accounts also (We'll perhaps know a bit more later today when I've done 30/40 of the charts below).
I would also expect more votes to head towards the months where the most new accounts were created. (Not all the accounts that joined in January 2018 were spammers :P )
For reference, the below is the complete history of account creations by month.
I couldn't decide if it would be more informative to look at unique accounts voted on at least once, or to tally up all the votes cast to these accounts. And so I have two charts again today, and they are both grouped by the month of account creation.
Only up-votes are considered.
Excluded on both charts are votes cast to the same author, commonly known as selfies.
If you have other accounts and suffered from the haejin effect in early 2018, those votes will still be present.
My charts
The first chart looks only for at least one vote to an account created within any given month. E.g. I have voted for 226 accounts that were created in July 2016.
This second chart takes all votes into consideration. E.g. I voted for 226 accounts created in July 2016 (above), and have cast a total of 4819 votes on these 226 accounts.
The red bar is the month in which my account was created. If you want your 'creation month' highlighting then you will need to tell me what it is in the comments - thanks! (This could serve as a good metric to see who is actually reading at this point, yep, I'm gathering data on you :P )
What do they tell me?
Well it looks like I am supporting a pocket of accounts that were created around the same time as mine in August 2016. However, I only wrote one post back then and didn't become active again until May 2017. The charts seem to show that I have another pocket from the summer of 2017, but this was also when there was a decent relative increase in the number of accounts in general.
December 2017 looks like a good month to join for up-votes from my account. I have cast almost 2000 more votes to Dec 2017 accounts than Jan 2018 accounts, even though the new account registrations are more than double in Jan 2018 than December 2017.
In January this year, we have had almost 20000 new accounts created. And I've only voted for 5 of them! This sounds pretty poor, but maybe it's not only me?
Someone else's charts
It's tricky when you only have one set of data and so I have stolen someone else's, who will remain anonymous of course.
Chart 1
Chart 2
They joined in August 2016 like me and have a similar pattern in chart 1 which tends also to follow the overall account creation pattern.
I see a difference in chart 2 though. Clearly the best months to have joined Steem for a vote from this account is the same month, or the one prior. There are other peaks that are in line with the overall account creation numbers also.
My charts are a little skewed because of the gap in activity, and i suspect this chart above represents a more common result, and ties in more closely what @fullcoverbetting stated in his comment.
I'm wondering what a curation outfits charts would look like - a bit flatter across the months? Perhaps I'll add those in tomorrow for @curie and/or @c-squared.
Right, it's 2 am and so it's unlikely you'll get a chart tonight but I promise to get to work, following a coffee when I wake up.
Who wants some charts?
Don't forget to give me the information I have asked for somewhere in the text above :P
Buenas Noches!
Asher
Thanks for the nightshift @abh12345
Rarely happens that I am right.
Great analysis.
A great spot and grand idea for another look into the numbers. Are you interested in some charts for your troubles? :)
Show me the magic! Guess it will be pretty random for me :)
Alright let's have a look.
August and September 2016 showing up noticeably compared to the charts of others - that works for me :)
Other than that, the accounts/votes seem to follow the overall account creation figures I think. December 2018/Jan 2019 a bit quiet as far as hunting for new authors, at least I have 5 in the January column! :D
Cheers!
I love how supportive you are @abh12345 :)
Charty bartfast for me please! I know I vote a lot of people that I crewed up with who joined roundabouts the same time. At least I think I do. I am sure the chart will tell!!
Rings a bell when you say it fast, or with a bulldog chewing a wasp face, hmm. Alright, fartchartblasts it is....
Ohhh I say @meesterboom, have you even visited the New tab since the first month you arrived? Tut tut!
This looks like a good case towards fullcoverbetting's hypothesis with a bit of mine tacked on the end to show the older accounts forming some decent 'bonds' during the earlier days. As FCB says, it's natural, and there just weren't that many of you around at that point so i'm thinking the bonds are stronger than those created during a 2 month, 300k account boom.
Thanks for throwing your name into the mix, I suspect you might be the oldest account to do so!
I fear no data!!!
Maybe I should though cos that's bloody shocking. Still. It's when you see things like this that it gives you the opportunity to think of changing things up!!
2018, lol!
There has to be a finite amount to the amount of content you can wade through each day. If your feed is already busy with creators from 2016, I'm guessing you are less likely to go looking for new stuff. A year and a half Steeming prior to the boom of Jan 2018 gave you plenty of time to build up a network.
I am chuckling though, but there are likely much 'worse' charts hiding out there!
I bloody hope there are worse! I have been working on timing my feed as I take try to read everything that's in it. Which had gotten a lot easier since the price tanked. Could be about to get difficult again though! :0D
There are for sure some 'worse' cases. They just won't be visiting this post!
Here's to it be coming more difficult to get through your feed each day!
Interesting! Sure, give me some charts after you’ve had some sleep :-)
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Well I had to do one before bed :)
The charts will open much bigger into a new window.
Your top month is the busiest account creation month on record, and as you appeared the month before, I guess that makes sense.
A little spike for the August 2016 crew there too ;)
That's about the extent of my analysis this evening/early morning (hey, shouldn't you be sleeping also!?)
Damn yes I should sleep! And I’m going to find me some newbies tomorrow, I basically stopped finding new accounts after 6 months on here :D
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No newbies after 6 months :O There must be some new talent of interest, good luck!
My CreationMonth is December 2017 - a good month for getting upvotes from you :P
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A nice Bar Chart to accompany the Pie chart, so yes, and August 2017 would be a good starting point for me.
OK let's have a look...
Seemingly no real ties to the month you arrived and your votes/unique accounts voted for and generally the graphs follow the overall account creation pattern. Makes sense if one were spreading their vote around to old and new folks, cheers!
interesting, and thinking about it i think i do vote a lot of people that are around my creation period. or maybe i just pay more attention to them. i registered in worst period for your vote, and am not a bot 😁
it is my birthday today so a chart would be a nice gift 😁
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I see you joined during a peak - could be worth comparing to other Jan 2018 joiners.
I don't think any of the Jan 2018 joiners have 'escaped' Jan 2018 as their top account/votes month, but you have a fair distribution going on, particularly to the 5/6 months prior to arrival. Seems legit :)
i think that that were the acc that were welcoming :D but it looks like i am decent with new people, but i could do more
I would love to see this. My guess is I will be a little more distributed than the average user but I dunno, maybe that is just me blowing smoke up my own butt. Which is actually trickier than it sounds like, let me tell you ;) My Steembirthmonth is July 2017.
heh :)
I suspect the same due to your curie/c-squared involvements, but we shall see..
I see more distribution than the average, and would find it tricky to guess your join month. Feel free to attempt the smoke-butt blowing challenge :)
Very interesting stats @abh12345! I'd be interested in seeing my chart; I started in January 2017... curious what it will look like, since I am a "niche" type of poster (psychology and personal); will the stats be any different?
Perhaps not, although I have this sense that content was more "technical" in the earlier going, and has gotten more "personal" since @surpassinggoogle started the "ulog" movement. But we'll see...
I hadn't really thought about the percieved change in content changing voting style, but I guess it could have an impact.
Well either the content used to be better, or the ULOG movement hasn't really captured you yet :) You supported 283 different accounts in 2018, 3268 in 2017. Just wondering if it could be time for a fresh look around? Or not, entirely up to you!
So much for that theory, I guess...
I recognize, though, that I fall into a pattern of first trying to just keep up with the people in my feed, and then responding to people who commented on one of my posts. And most of the time... there's no time left over after that.
Clearly, I need to change my approach.
In my early days, I would often sit on the "new" feed and just read random posts for hours on end... hence the huge number of different accounts in 2017.
Thanks for running the numbers @abh12345... a lot to think about here.
It's tough to keep a fresh view when you've been here a while, I'm the same and at present I rarely visit 'New'. I guess 1/2 comments out to new writers a day would be doing better than most.
A pleasure :)
Could it be that older accounts are having trouble finding newer authors they might be interested in, so they just stick to the community they have already built up?
'Trouble', perhaps. Lack of desire/see no value in rewarding people who can only offer dust/lazy. Could be a few reasons :)
I trail c-cubed and check c-squared resteems from time to time as the finding has been done - i just have to select the content that stands out to me (from 10 posts not 5000).
Yes I would like to see mine. February 1 is when I became active
Sure :)
Quite a strong bar on the month you arrived and the months either side, but this was also during a new account boom so it is perhaps inconclusive.
Lots of votes, although not unique accounts, for January 2017. I suspect you have a regular vote heading to an account or two created during that month.
Thanks for the request!
I don’t quit understand the charts LOL
My account might have started on the 31 or 30 of January. I was under the impression that I started posting on 1 February
Pie charts, now bar graphs, what's next, @abh12345?!
Since there always seems to be a need to guess or predict what's going to happen with a request like this, I'd like to say that there really isn't much of a core group I've voted for or in since I started (I was approved near the end of December, 2017, but didn't do much until the beginning of January, 2018), but it's bound to show otherwise, so that's what I'm expecting. Following the crowd like a sheep to be sheared!
Bring it on! (If you don't mind, of course. :)
I do appreciate a little guesswork prior to the results, it at least tells me that the post has been read and understood :) Let's have a look...
Well, what you'd like to have said seems not to be the case and it looks like you are right with it being the opposite :)
You arrived during the new user boom and so there is some 'safety' in that, but it does seem that your core group of accounts/votes are for the folks that joined when you did.
My theory, which I didn't mention and could also be the reason for a 'spike' in December 2017 for me also, is the fulltimegeek/friendsofgondor/engagement league initiatives. Around that time, the stewards were in full flow, and the League really shot up in numbers. Those that stuck with it and seemed to engage the most this past year seemed to come from accounts created around the same time as yours. And so with a community of sorts forming around the above, and plenty of comments to vote in the League posts alone, I'm thinking this is why there is such a strong correlation.
Thoughts and opposing views welcome :)
Well, I don't have an opposing thought or view to offer, @abh12345. Your assumptions about what's taking place here sounds good and reasonable to me.
That said, I have tried to get to as many other people's posts as I can. I also don't tend to upvote all everyone within my date range produces, too, simply because I can't and upvote others, and, because I can't read all of it. If I don't read, I've not been upvoting it.
So, while my information tends to say otherwise, I've not been trying to upvote content based on being friends. So, regardless, I guess, of intent, the results are pretty much the same, which maybe is for the best, even though I'd much rather it be known that it's the content of the folks that is driving me, rather than the relationships I've made.
And it could be, that to some extent, the two go hand in hand. If I'm connecting with the content, I'm connecting with the creator. I suppose it then holds true for the other way around.
So, anyway, I've been trying to do what I think I'm supposed to be doing—curate good content, rather than just distributing funds from the reward pool to people I've met here.
I think many would like this to be the case. I've been on record more than once saying I support people and/or content. E.g., When i vote for @votovzla, I vote for the people - some of the content I can't even read (as my Spanish is not at that level)
It is in the end, your stake, you've earned/paid for it.
We thank you for your great support, we can apply the upvote flow theories, which sometimes is not the value of the upvote that you give to a quality content, but what the person values for the intention you have to support it.
Greetings friend from all the Venezuelan community.
As you say, it is our stake, to do what we ultimately feel is best.
That said, I really do enjoy the pie charts and the bar graphs, as I hopefully have said more than once. I think it's great to have them personalized, as I know I've also said. So, hopefully, none of my "rather this" or "wish it were that" ends up feeling like a deterrent, or "why did I do this." My issues and wants and desires are mine to own, too, just like my stake, and won't be even a remote reflection of what you think, feel, want, or accomplish.
There is great value in this, since most of us don't have direct access, the ability or the wherewithal to access it. So, if you're so inclined, keep them coming. :)