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RE: Falling STEEM/SBD Price - Proposed Solution to the SBD Debt to Marketcap Ratio Problem

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no, what I'm saying is that right now the whales consume 90% of the voting power, which is the main problem, while it would be a much smaller problem if there were in total at least 100.000 users, but ... that will never happen because none of the whales are willing to take any responsibility for their own actions ...

I already read that post; he got a point, but no solution

steemit was meant to be decentralized, but ~30 people control everything and they're so full of themselves that even after months of failure; it's not just the price that's crashing; users are down, posts are down, comments are down ... yet, none of them is willing to ask themselves what it is they're doing wrong ...

this while Rene Descartes already solved what's at the core of this problem more than 300 years ago ... such a disgrace

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no, what I'm saying is that right now the whales consume 90% of the voting power, which is the main problem

Curation guilds have a good chance of helping with this problem. If more whales delegated their voting to groups that can take the time to do good curation, then it will be better than someone who isn't a good curator (but holds a ton of power) from making all the decisions on what to do with their power themselves.

There is also a trend (a very slow one, but still a trend) away from the centralization of power. If you look at a 2 year horizon, it probably won't remain this way long-term.

I agree though that if you look at the situation today, that is one of the larger problems with the site/platform/community.

it's not a matter of agreeing or doing the right thing ... those whales need to realize that if they want to see their estimated value go up again ... they need to put their voting slider on 1% and leave it there!

it's in their own self best interest, but ... they're so emotional and short minded ... they just can't accept that they're the reason why they lost millions

why do you think bernie has been downvoting me? because he's frustrated over the millions he lost, but he can't accept that he's one of the main reasons why that happened, so ... he downvotes me ... what a spiteful loser!

Interesting. I hadn't thought of that. So I will concede that it would at least work. It will still never happen though.

A lot of whales are actually doing good with their voting, and an even larger majority at least think they are. So in their minds, giving up their voting and letting other people have more control, because who doesn't think they are doing the right thing :)

Also, out of curiosity, if the whales stopped voting it would basically be up to the 'dolphins' as to who got all the votes. What is to say that this group (and the minnows who now also have more power) would do a better job promoting content that was in the platform's best interest?

I'm looking forward to your post were you address the single largest problem TODAY; too many big whales that don't understand all the damages they cause ;-)

Many humans are selfish, and are going to act in their own best interest. You can make the case for "this is for the good of the platform" but very few humans are actually that altruistic.

good, let them be selfish, that's not the problem, the problem is that they're very short minded

I don't want them to do it for the greater good or any of that bullshit

they need to do it because that's the only way their value will go up again

if they want to make money ... in the long run and not only a few months to then lose everything, as that's what's happening now; they need to put their voting slider on 1% and leave it there; it's the solution for their problem as well!

that's what they don't get and what you still don't seem to understand; the whales are also losing here, even more so then everybody else while they're the ones that cause that

if they want to stop losing money; they need to put their voting slider on 1% and leave it there

the reason why bernie's estimated value went from almost 10 million to less than a million is because he's voting; he caused that problem himself

so ... if bernie wants to see his shares go up again; he needs to put their voting slider on 1% and leave it there; that's the solution

the best thing that those whales can do to save their own ass is to they to put their voting slider on 1% and leave it there; it's in their own self best interest!

it's not about me having an issue with him ... he has an issue with me, which is why he has been downvoting my comments; he hates the truth and the truth is that he (and those 30 other braindead whales) fucked up steemit

it's about the fact that those whales are way too big compared to the total amount of users!

whenever bernie votes; he takes away from the real users; his votes are skewing the results

and yes; bernie will never accept that he's one of the biggest problems around and that's why the price keeps dropping, people are leaving and steemit will die

I hate to be right about this, because at first I was really enthusiastic, until I realized that there's a small group of people that have no clue how steemit actually works, while at the same time they're ones consuming 90% of the voting power ... it's fucking communism all over again; it's so blatant, yet I'm one of the few who's willing to bring up the truth;

the whales are consuming 90% of the voting power and that's the problem!

if bernie and those other short minded lefties would never have voted at all... steemit would be a real success now; those whales fucked up steemit!

it's all mathematical; there's no point trying to deny it, yet that's all the whales do; denying reality ...

K. I won't get into the you vs. Bernie thing, because I agree it is besides the main point. The main thing is the 90% of the voting power across all the whales. To that, I added a reply to one of your earlier comments.

We need to do a better job recognizing these people and up-voting their content.
I'm sure there are others out there right now too, but @berniesanders is amazing at this. He has made so many Steemer's days by 'blessing' them and upvoting their posts.

that's the exact opposite of the solution!!

he didn't bless anybody; he skews the results and takes away the voting power of everybody else and that's why steemit doesn't work!!

the whales have a voting slider now; if they would put it on 1% and leave it there, they can still vote without fucking everything up

the whales are consuming 90% of the voting power and that's the problem!

if the whales were to stop voting (or at max 1%) then other people's vote will finally count, so good posts will get the rewards they deserve without votes from whales, people will have fun, commenting will be worthwhile etc ... but none of that is happening, because the whales can't accept that they're the ones that are now fucking everything up!

the whales are consuming 90% of the voting power and that's the problem!

how many times to I have to repeat the same thing until you finally get it?

the whales are consuming 90% of the voting power and that's the problem!

Yeah, I realized that was in there after I shared the link with you.. I know you have an issue with him. I don't share your view, but I do know he used to be different. He used to be one of the few whales that was actually spending time to truly curate and upvote posts that were underpaid but deserved to be making money. He still kind of does (through Curie), but it is not the same as before.

the whales are consuming 90% of the voting power and that's the problem!

I see what you are saying. Basically you want the whales to stop using their influence. Whether I agree or disagree with you is irrelevant. It's not going to happen.

Also, the point of my post was basically knowing that there is not going to be a way to literally stop whales from using their influence, the best we can hope for is to make the case for them to use it in a way that we more agree with.

Curation guilds have a good chance of helping with this problem.

or ... the whales could just stop creating the problem, so there's no need for curation guilds ...

Continuing here due to nesting.

the whales are consuming 90% of the voting power and that's the problem!

I mentioned it in my other comment, but basically whether I agree with you on this or not is irreverent. The reason is because it will never happen. There are a lot of reasons for this, but here are the main two:

  1. Many humans are selfish, and are going to act in their own best interest. You can make the case for "this is for the good of the platform" but very few humans are actually that altruistic.
  2. It will only work if every single whale agrees to it.

I actually believe that there are more 'good' whales than 'bad' ones who will genuinely do what they believe is in the best interest of the platform over themselves. So let's assume we get 90% of the whales to go along with your idea.

The problem is the 10% that are left. You would actually be giving a 100% increase (1000% actually if you count the n^2 algorithm) in voting power because they will be the only ones with a large stake in determining what posts get huge upvotes.

The worst part about it, is these people who didn't go along with the plan are the exact ones that you would not want having the power, because these are the ones that are arguably acting in their own self interest, rather than handing over their voting power for the good of the community.

do you think that it serves the whales that steemit is crashing? obviously not, right?

they want steemit to be successful, so ... they need to put their voting slider on 1% and leave it there, as what they do now is what's causing the problem!

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