A Geeky Dad's Movie Guide to Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017) (No Spoilers)

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Before I begin this review from the perspective of a geeky dad, the 46 year old huge Star Wars fan in me would like to say a few words about...



If you are an adult who is a huge Star Wars fan, please repeat these words before seeing this movie:

This movie was not created for me. It was created for kids and new Star Wars fans. (Edit 12/16: I just saw it for a second time and had a much more enjoyable experience. I turned off my brain and just enjoyed. You can read about it here.)


I truly believe that if adult Star Wars fans keep this in mind and lower their expectations quite a bit, they will have a better chance of enjoying this movie. Sadly, the huge Star Wars fan that lives in me did not know to do this before viewing the movie. He is now crying.*

Maybe it would have been better if I were expecting this...



Everything is awesome! Everything is awesome when you make a movie for kids and new fans!

But the geeky dad is smiling. Why? Because my 12 year old son LOVED this movie. Not only did he excitedly (but quietly) tell me a few things during the movie, he could not stop talking about it on the way home. He was amazed at how much was tied to the books and video games he loves. He frantically explained details about how certain villains got their armor and why weapons were so special. Basically, he loved it enough for both of us.

I am not just a crotchety old Star Wars fan who likes his X-Wings to look like models and his Yoda to look like a puppet (of course I am those things but there is much more). I loved The Force Awakens and I enjoyed Rogue One. If I were to rank the Star Wars movies in order it would be:

  1. Empire Strikes Back
  2. A New Hope
  3. Force Awakens
  4. Return of the Jedi
  5. Rogue One
  6. The Last Jedi

I won't even rank the prequels because they suck so much I want to forget they exist. But as you can see, I actually enjoyed The Force Awakens more than one of the original trilogy.

After seeing, The Force Awakens, I felt that it was a farewell love letter not only to Han Solo, but to fans like me as well. Rather than being a true sequel, I thought it was a reboot of the series aimed at building a bridge between old fans like me and their children. (For me it was only my daughter because my son was already a true fan).

After seeing The Last Jedi I am now convinced. The Force Awakens was definitely a message to Fans who grew up in the 70s and 80s. That message:

"OK old men. You had your fun. Here's one last movie for you... but then it is time to give a new generation what you had for the past 40 years. Thanks for your loyalty and for raising kids with excellent taste. Now go sit in the back and watch your kids have fun."*



See ya middle-aged fans. It's been a hell of a ride! May the Force Be With You.

That is what I did tonight while watching The Last Jedi. Personally I did not enjoy very much of this film. There were a couple of cool shout outs to the original trilogy (but I refuse to spoil them). There were also a few exciting (but short) battles, and many of the jokes were funny. But aside from that, there wasn't much for me.*

The plot has some very serious holes. They "yada-yada-yada" over some very important details, they include characters and creatures for no discernible reason and the end is incredibly unsatisfying. In the future, after everyone has seen the movie, I will post a rant about all these issues as well as all the times I asked "Why did that happen?" There were many. (Not quite as many as Batman v Superman but more than any non-prequel Star Wars movie). I honestly don't think the intended audience is there for the plot. They are there for fun and action... even if it is fairly mindless according to the huge Star Wars fan in me.*



I missed Han so much I thought I should add as much of him here as possible.

I think the casting is excellent. There isn't much that you can do to make Mark Hammill a better actor but the writers and director did not put him in very many difficult situations. They kept it easy for him and he did fine. It was wonderful to see Carrie Fisher get to play one of my favorite female characters one last time. She will be missed. I think the producers hit a home run with Daisy Ridley, Oscar Isaac, and John Boyega. Heck I even like Adam Driver as Kylo Ren. The acting is not the problem.

The special effects are absolutely stunning. The space battles look amazing. The CGI characters look very real. No complaints there either.

Although the movie was long (almost 2 1/2 hours long) there is quite a bit of action. While my family enjoyed the action, I felt it was tainted by the fact that so much of the setup made very little sense. Yes the action was cool... but was most of it necessary? Would the characters really be in the position to have to carry out the action sequences? Were all of the combat moves plausible? I was thinking too much about these questions to truly enjoy. Because of this, I was actually bored during many scenes.*



This looked really cool. Just don't ask me why it took place.

The writers attempted to work in a significant amount of humor. I'd say 2/3 of it worked. Some jokes were just too hokey for an adult... but my kids laughed at every joke. Far too many made me face-palm and shake my head. Once again, it was obvious that I was not the intended audience for the humor.*

The same was true of the "cute" creatures including the now famous penguin-like porgs. I have no idea why they were in the movie (neither does my computer because it won't let me type it!) Actually that is a lie. I know exactly why they are in the movie. Some focus group of little girls must have loved them. My 10 year old daughter sure did.



My wife and daughter loved these turtle faced things dressed like nuns. The Star Wars fan in me died a little bit just writing that.*

Actually the entire movie seems like it was many scenes patched together to satisfy many different focus groups. Sadly the "Middle-aged hardcore Star Wars fan" focus group only had scraps tossed to us. The meat clearly went to the little kids and their non-initiated parents focus group.

All of this may make it seem like I hated this experience. Nothing could be further form the truth. Although I did not enjoy the movie, I cherished the experience. My kids had enough fun for all of us. The fact that my wife liked it was an added bonus. The cherry on top was that my 10 year old daughter was so excited that she actually stayed awake for the entire movie even though it ended 90 minutes after her bedtime.


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Although my kids are a little bit older than these two, they shared the same facial expression during the entire movie.

If I had to choose between me loving it or my kids loving it, I would pick them every single time.

I had a childhood filled with awesome Star Wars memories. Now it is their turn.

I'm taking them to see it in IMAX on Saturday. Maybe it will grow on me... (12/16 edit: It did!)

Geeky Dad's Movie Guide

Number of times I fell asleep: 0
Number of eye rolls: 6 (Plot holes, unexplained Jedi powers, and the feeling that this movie was made for a series of focus groups.)
Number of face palms: 4 (A couple of jokes were just too ridiculous plus they missed some huge opportunities)
Number of times my kid asked to go to the bathroom or get food out of sheer boredom: 0
Number of times I checked steemit: 0
Number of times I said "That's ridiculous": 2
Did my kids like it: They LOVED it!
Would I see it without my kids: Yes (But then again, I saw all the prequels in the theater... I'm an addict.)
Full price/Matinee/Rental/Free/Not worth the time: Full Price (Based solely on watching my kids have fun)

*12/16 edit: I just returned from seeing it a second time. All of the flaws I pointed out were based on my perspective, not the movie. I still stand by my words but I have a much more positive opinion of the movie now. You can read about it here.

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I have seen the new star wars movie and I have to say I dont like it. Its breaking my heart to say that.
I was entertained but the more I think over the decisions made in the movie the less I like it ( and I even liked the prequels)

but I am just a random dude -
but wait didnt just disney said you can be a Nobody and still be a Jedi beating kylo /skywalker with almost zero training ----

I couldn't stand it the first time I saw it. But... then I remembered it's for 8 - 13 year olds is 2017 not 46 year olds... or even 8 - 13 year olds in 1977.

I know what you mean its nice made ,cgi looks good, the acting is fine too ,and there are even some really good ideas, BUT the decision made ... oh lord..the plotholes oh lord...and the timeline..... it feels like rayn johnson just dont gave a fuck even about episode 7 . it had so many missed opportunities to be a film for young and old generation and it even teases those things you want to see but the second before you think yes finally this will be good --the moment is already over and the oppoertunity is missed. I hope It will be better after I see it the 2nd and 3rd time .

What a great review! Always like reading them :D

@hanshotfirst - **Wow - it has been a while since we visited each others posts. I guess timings do not match due to my revised work schedule. Anyway -
Thank you for this great analysis (without spoilers). It is so sad that the Star-wars franchize that we all grew up on is now catering for the new young fans. I feel so cheated and abandoned!
Upvoted.
Regards,

@vm2904

Good to see you here! I am a little sad, but that is tempered by the fact that I realize I'm an old man. It's time for kids to get what I was lucky to have: a childhood filled with Star Wars. I will still enjoy the new movies and TV shows, just in a slightly different way than before.

I am not old. I am 25 years old. Please, don't just pass this new trilogy to us! We wanted a new Star Wars trilogy, not whatever this was...

Sadly Lucas already tried to make your movies. They were the prequels and they sucked. I feel really bad for people in between my age and my son's age. If you were too young to see the original trilogy as a kid and now too old to see this one as a kid, it sucks. So 25 is actually too old for these. The human brain does not fully develop until around age 25. This movie is for people with young minds and those who can pretend to have one for a few hours. I truly believe people need to turn off they "adult brain" to enjoy these. I am not saying you have to be "dumb" to like these. You just need to be willing to let go of logic for a little while.

Yes. It is hard to accept that we are now getting old but that is a fact. The cycle of life has to go on and the kids must get priority.
Thank you. I really like the perspective you put on these things. Frankly, anyone can do a movie review but the way you do it is very different and valuable.

oh wow! Now I MUST go see it! Been busy lately with my dad's health issues and writing my posts but I must find time. :)

I felt that way after TFA, to be honest. I found myself watching myself watching the movie.... so much anticipation, so many worries. The second time though? I feel absolutely in love with it.

And with The Last Jedi I liked it a lot the first time through and found very little to quibble with. Star Wars was always for our inner 9 year olds, even The Phantom Menace works when you allow yourself to be a kid again.

But, that is what Star Wars is. And I expect I will love The Last Jedi when I see it a second time. This is a very deep film that has a lot to say about legends and the expectations of the younger generation of the older one.

Oh, and that little bit about war being a racket. Kinda important that.

The first time I heard this film I liked the abbreviation❤❤
@hanshotfirst

Great movie analysis, I love your ranking system.
I'm very bummed that you ranked it last, now I feel the need to wait until it hits a premium channel in my theater room.

I saw it for a second time. I turned off my brain and enjoyed it so much more!

https://steemit.com/star-wars/@hanzappedfirst/star-wars-the-last-jedi-i-took-my-own-advice-and-it-was-awesome

If you can turn your brain off for a couple of hours I bet you will have fun in th theater.

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I'll take a look at your new post.

I've seen it twice as well.

I loved it the first time, when I saw it Thursday night.

After seeing the hate online about it I went and saw it again Friday afternoon.

And I left thinking, nope I was right. It's a great movie.

I haven't read much yet. My guess is that the hate came from people like me who forgot that the target audience is kids (as it should be).

I was looking at it through the wrong lens. I think I kind of got tricked by how much I felt The Force Awakens was aimed at me. I think that was a special one last hurrah for my generation. It was very special. But I knew it was a transition. Somehow I let myself forget.

just came out of the cinema and have the feeling something was missing... I don't know. I just hope that the next triology will be the DARTH BANE SAGA 1000 years before.

You know what? I need to watch this movie! It’s so cool the last scene from the previos movie while he standing there in the cliff with his robot arm. I know the next one will be great

It wasn't that bad. I liked it more than Force Awakens. Characters are now more established and there are some cool new comers. Well, story is not finished yet and I think we must see the last one to give the whole disney SW triology a fair review.

It just had too many plot holes for me. Some day I will share all o them. But I pride myself on never spoiling a movie so it will have to wait... but my list is long.

There are many plot holes yes, I didn't let those ruin the movie for me. It is a SW movie after all, logic was never the strong feature of this saga. Fun and pew pew :)

Yes i support your comment

I have been watching star wars since when i was a kid. Actually my dad made me watch it and i kinda liked it, when i get married and have kids i would also love them to also watch it. Nice post @hanshotfirst

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