I should also note: that at the 1 Hour mark, they show a Picture of NATE with a huge Joint. But even more important, Joe talks about Decades and decades of Propaganda and how the Pharma Companies Demonized the Cannabis Industry to such a point, you could not even make ROPE with it for goodness sake. And we all know how GREAT HEMP is for ROPE, Skin, YOU JOINTS in your BODY as well as your HAND all the way to the ends of your FINGERS , lol... I like their conversations because they are so deep and intellectual. Joe is not just a UFC Junkie and a HEALTH NUT,,, but there is a BRAIN in that head as well.... Even if it is set at BAKE once in a while,, he he,, kidding :-)