Hello #spanish community! We are #polish community. We would like to know more about you!
Introduction
¡Hola! (Lo siento por mi débil español)
Some time ago I wanted to find out what are the non-English language communities on Steem. And I created such a post: https://steemit.com/utopian-io/@jacekw.dev/analysis-of-non-english-communities-on-steem. It turned out that the #spanish community is the largest non-English community on Steem! I thought that it's time to get to know each other better :) Especially that this year SteemFest is taking place in Poland, so maybe some people would like to ask questions to Polish people. This post will be entirely written in English so that both sides can understand it :)
This article will be divided into two parts:
- the first with our questions to #spanish community
- the second with our answers to these questions.
Before we get to the main part, let's look at some statistics (from 01.01.2018 to 31.08.2018).
Posts
| . | Tag | Posts |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | #spanish | 336734 |
| 2 | indonesia | 330718 |
| 3 | kr | 290668 |
| 4 | aceh | 277963 |
| 5 | cervantes | 178478 |
| 6 | deutsch | 87641 |
| 7 | cn | 86387 |
| 8 | castellano | 73389 |
| 9 | venezuela | 68159 |
| 10 | tr | 65606 |
| 11 | polish | 37163 |
| 12 | fr | 24096 |
| 13 | japanese | 23914 |
| 14 | myanmar | 23003 |
| 15 | pt | 21500 |
| 16 | ru | 20898 |
| 17 | thai | 19599 |
| 18 | ua | 17512 |
| 19 | morocco | 9849 |
| 20 | steemit-austria | 8494 |
Rewards
| . | Tag | Rewards (STEEM) |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | kr | 447382 |
| 2 | #spanish | 224177 |
| 3 | cn | 196510 |
| 4 | cervantes | 132190 |
| 5 | deutsch | 115402 |
| 6 | indonesia | 105563 |
| 7 | tr | 85591 |
| 8 | aceh | 50145 |
| 9 | castellano | 49239 |
| 10 | fr | 48192 |
| 11 | japanese | 44782 |
| 12 | pt | 31832 |
| 13 | polish | 28646 |
| 14 | venezuela | 25083 |
| 15 | myanmar | 23503 |
| 16 | ru | 20005 |
| 17 | steemit-austria | 18475 |
| 18 | thai | 16231 |
| 19 | ua | 16192 |
| 20 | mexico | 12699 |
Authors
| . | Tag | Authors |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | #spanish | 24864 |
| 2 | indonesia | 21528 |
| 3 | aceh | 20639 |
| 4 | cervantes | 15219 |
| 5 | kr | 14976 |
| 6 | venezuela | 11786 |
| 7 | castellano | 7755 |
| 8 | cn | 5944 |
| 9 | deutsch | 4856 |
| 10 | tr | 3827 |
| 11 | polish | 2751 |
| 12 | japanese | 2283 |
| 13 | mexico | 1693 |
| 14 | fr | 1584 |
| 15 | myanmar | 1549 |
| 16 | thai | 1186 |
| 17 | ru | 1157 |
| 18 | pt | 913 |
| 19 | russian | 740 |
| 20 | arab | 699 |
Questions
- How would you describe the #spanish community in a few sentences?
- Which #spanish users are most recognized on Steem?
- What Steem projects have been created by people from your community?
- What witnesses do you have?
- Does the #spanish community stick together or is it divided into many groups?
- What initiatives / principles / conventions have you developed?
- What are the biggest problems of the #spanish community?
Extra questions:
a. What is the difference between #spanish, #cervantes and #castellano?
b. Which country has the most users who use the #spanish tag?
Our answers
1: How would you describe the #polish community in a few sentences?
The #polish community may not be too big, but it is well organized. Our main channel of communication is https://steem.chat/channel/polish. Every month we have statistics that present the current state of the community: https://steemit.com/polish/@jacekw/przekroj-spolecznosci-polish-sierpien-2018.
2: Which #polish users are most recognized on Steem?
- @gtg - top Steem witness, IT Wizard
- @noisy - creator of SteemProjects, WISE, witness
- @the.foodini - wants to open the world's first STEEMtruck
- @highonthehog - fantastic blogger, travels around the world
3: What Steem projects have been created by people from your community?
- SteemProjects by @noisy
- WISE by @noisy
- SteemFounders by @santarius & @nicniezgrublem
- Engrave by @nicniezgrublem
- SteemWeb by @rafalski
- SteemNova by @mys & @fervi
- Steeditor by @jakipatryk
- DGameShop & DGameLand by @fervi
- glodniwiedzy.pl by @nicniezgrublem
- gameeit by @rolsonpatison & @barbarossastudio & @nervi
4: What witnesses do you have?
- @gtg (1)
- @noisy.witness (52)
- @jamzed (114)
5: Does the #polish community stick together or is it divided into many groups?
Despite the fact that we often argue, create different subgroups and have some dramas, as a community we rather stick together.
6: What principles / conventions / initiative have you developed?
- We have a pretty well-organized system of tags with the prefix
pl-, thanks to which Polish-language posts do not reach English-speaking recipients (it would happen if the tag is a word in both languages). The tree of tags can be seen here: https://steemweb.pl/categories. - Each week we organize a contest in which we write posts on one of the 3 topics (which were drawn on Wikipedia): https://steemit.com/tematygodnia/@steemit-polska/tematy-tygodnia-tematygodnia-46-tematy. The initiative has been running for 46 weeks now.
- A summary of the best articles of the week is posted by a dozen or so editors in the Tygodnik Kuratorski.
- #pl-publikacje - an initiative of writing articles promoting Steem to various newspapers
- Long-distance adoption of a girl from Congo: https://fundition.io/#!/@barbarossastudio/9xq89viul
- Smuggling chocolate, available for 3SBD: https://steemit.com/polish/@hallmann/czekolada-za-sbd-czyli-najwiekszy-przemyt-w-dziejach-kartelu
- Blood donation - with 1 STEEM reward: https://steemit.com/polish/@barbarossastudio/krew-dla-boga-krwi-zrob-donacje-i-otrzymaj-1-steem
We also have many curation initiatives:
- @diosbot - bot that upvotes good articles
- WISE - system that delegates vote of one user to other users (experts)
- #perpetuummobile - curation system to support authors writing in some popular #polish tags
7: What are the biggest problems of the #polish community?
- decline in activity in recent months
- there are smaller and larger dramas ;)
- people are discouraged by falling rewards
¡Gracias por las respuestas!
Zachęcam do dyskusji, zadawania pytań i udzielania odpowiedzi!
Hello #polish community Maybe I am not the best person to answer your questions, but I will try as much as possible to give you some clues about our communities:
I hope that this information can be of some use to you to know our communities.
Pozdrowienia dla polskiej społeczności!
Thank you for the answers, I really appreciate it!
Before writing that post, I wasn't aware that there are so many posts with the #spanish tag. I thought the leader was #kr and #cn. Now I found out that most users are from Venezuela, and I still thought that it is more or less equally distributed across all Spanish-speaking countries. I am aware of the economic situation in Venezuela, but I did not expect it to have an effect on Steem!
And thank you for explaining the issue of #spanish, #cervantes and #castellano tags, because I couldn't figure it out myself :)
Saludos desde Polonia!
But before I begin let me remind you something that´s in the post. Most of the spanish language users are Venezuelan. Venezuela as you may know is a nightmare right now, you just can´t imagine what´s happening here. So, you have to take that in mind as you read what I have to say.
Venezuelan community is really poor. A lot of people use Steemit as a way to make money so they can eat. This is real and it is not an exaggeration. We are poor people trying hard to get some money to buy a piece of meat. Some people do it in a honest way, giving their best and others just can´t compite with quality so they became beggars.
So, sit tide and enjoy as the world burns! (I pretent to burn it myself)
How would you describe the #spanish community in a few sentences?
-There is a lot of great authors trying to success in the spanish community, higly educated people, scientist, published writers, universitary profesors and so on, but most of all is common people having a bad time.
Which #spanish users are most recognized on Steem?
-I won´t mention anyone, I think there is a lot of great users, most of them underground. Plankton like me, people trying to bring great content and work hard to became better with every post. Prepare yourself, you will read a lot of mentions to curation groups and dolphins, but that´s because they have the power, so people just praise them to get an upvote (yeah, sounds cruel but remember, a good upvote could be the difference between white rice and a decent meal).
What Steem projects have been created by people from your community?
-A LOT. But mostly have no future, most of the time a "leader" creates one and some users follow him, hoping to get some upvotes and the cicle jerk begings. Content doesn´t really matter, just who is the best praising the "leader" and his court.
What witnesses do you have?
-None. They just try to get pay for producing blocks and use the community to get there. They tell beatyful lies, upvote some people to gain they support, when they think they have it, forget them even if they are really good, and proceed to look for another user to upvote them and collect more support and so on. So the spanish community don´t have witness, they just have people that became o want to be witness in order to get SP by producing blocks and circle jerk with they "inner" circle.
Does the #spanish community stick together or is it divided into many groups?
-In my opinion, there is 3 groups and you can notice it in the coments of this post. First one: the leaders and they inner circle, they are the ones who controls the sp (check the upvotes made by planton in their coments). The sheeps, people who want´s to became a part of the circle jerk or get an upvote, so they play by the rules of the powerful (they will comment and upvote leaders and their court) and finally, the rebels or indifferents; people that stay away and are almost pariahs because they don´t play the game or are just sick of this and want´s to change it. They don´t get high votes (some of the best authors are here) as a way to censor and keep them small, the intention it to force them to leave, keep silence or praise the leaders (remember we are talking that some venezuelans eats with the few dollars we can get here).
What initiatives / principles / conventions have you developed?
-Get to your knees if you want to suceed, is the only convention that seems to work around here.
What are the biggest problems of the #spanish community?
-Too much poor users depending of the good will of some not so decent people. This is the real problem, obviously it´s imposible to reward all the users and I know that. But there is too much power in too few hands that use it to gain more and more power.
Extra questions:
a. What is the difference between #spanish, #cervantes and #castellano?
-Spanish was the first tag used in steemit by spanish talking people, so still is the most popular one. Cervantes is the tag imposed by cervantes witness, so if you want to get their upvotes you use it. And castellano is another tag for the same language promoted by witness castellano. But there is also some controversy about this outside steemit, the language that you know as spanish origins in the Reign of Castilla, Spain; so Castellano is the original name for the language and maybe the best suited since in Spain there is a lot of other language also speaked by spanish people like catalan, gallego, vasco and so on.
So, I´m sorry for this "almost a bible" coment, thanks for reading and i hope you find interesting.
If you want to know more, maybe you could read this post I made a week ago:
https://steemit.com/blog/@jcalero/thereasonwhyaminnowlosthope-mrhrno260r
I really thank you for such an honest answer.
I didn't know that most users are from Venezuela. I'm aware of the bad economic situation, but I didn't think it would have such an impact on the number of users on the Steem. I thought that it is more or less equally distributed across all Spanish-speaking countries.
Your comment opens eyes to many issues and many real problems, makes you think about it, which is why I appreciate it so much.
Saludos desde Polonia!
That´s what I try to do, no one talks about it because they need the votes and the best way to have a decent reward is playing the game.
This happens all the time and everywhere, even in the steempress bot they use their power to censorship people and reward their inner circle. You see, steempress asked to this "leaders" to approve a white list and assign percentages of voting power according to quality (I guess) but when I checked steempress upvotes for spanish community noted the same, "inners" circles and leaders get an high percentage upvote (5%, 7%, 9% or more) and the others 1.75% or a bit more. Even if they have a better content and more influence on the community, again, too much power in to few hands.
IMHO is clearly a abuse of power and a disrespect to fredrikaa and howo, but i have no power instead of speaking my mind and hope that people open their eyes.
Sadly this comment it's all negativity and
from a pessimisticc point of view, I wouldn't pay attention to what this "user" said, most if not all of his statements are driven by emotion and his own experience in the platform. While some of what he stated holds a bit of truth, the reasons behind that happening are nothing close to what he says. Oh, if you don't believe me this comment is full of emotion and mixed feelings, check out a post from him from 8 days ago, you'll see what I talking about.
Some may call it pesimisn, I call it realism. By the way, did you know the roman saying: "Caesar's wife must be above suspicion." En castellano, "La mujer del César no solo debe ser honesta, sino parecerlo"
I talked about censorship and here you are, telling @jacekw "hey, don't pay attention, this guy is fucked up" 👊 well done, you prove my point.
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That's not even close to censorship XD
As you are entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine, its a free decentralized world, my friend. And yes, when someone is incredibly biased towards something, their opinion is usually dismissed, they can still have it, but no one will take it seriously.
Falacia ad hominem xD
Hominen viciado y parcial ;) por cierto, ya te ibas de la plataforma no? Adios
No sé, últimamente desde que no me importa ser incomodo me estoy divirtiendo demasiado como para irme.
Confirmation bias occurs from the direct influence of desire on beliefs. When people would like a certain idea/concept to be true, they end up believing it to be true. They are motivated by wishful thinking. This error leads the individual to stop gathering information when the evidence gathered so far confirms the views (prejudices) one would like to be true.
really interesting post, I learned a lot about the polish community. Sounds like a really interesting and active community. not sure if you are aware, but @steemcommunity witness tends to support community accounts with votes. Okay the votes are small as we are a relatively new witness. I also like to support community leaders and i am going to look further at steemit-polska.
Some really amazing replies given on this post. truly engaging.
Very good, thanks @jacekw today I learned more about the spanish community and of a Polish. Extraordinary....
Czy kiedykolwiek komputery będą tak inteligentne jak ludzie?
Pozdrowienia z Wenezueli
I found out today that there are so many users from Venezuela, I wasn't really aware of it. We have to meet some beer halfway between the countries. Even if it's in the ocean, it does not matter haha :D
Saludos desde Polonia!
hahahahahhahahahahha
In Venezuela, beer is purchased per box of 36 units. I'll have to do a lot of steemt so we can buy a box at least.
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Pozdrowienia z Wenezueli
Hello @Jacekw!! It's really a pleasure to find your iniciative, not only for the spanish community but for the many languages that includes your Project. I'm always glad to met people from all over the world, and I have a great fríend from Poland that always gave me support since my earlier days, @Firesteem, always sharing the great work of being fireman and other aspects of culture, sports and nature life.
About your questions I think, as you have seen, the spanish speaking community is much diverse as we are in many continents and in both hemispheres of the world. Many words shared, many words of our own makes spanish language so diverse that even every country has its own dictionary. Steem reflects this very well.
My point of view is very simple, spanish community is always vibrant and makes a hard work, both in steemit and in the day by day of each country.
I know these are witnesses that support spanish speaking community (of course, I know it has to be more, or maybe some of them are not witnessing any more, I'll be glad to know more): @cervantes, @castellano, @dropahead, @moisesmcardona, @nnnarvaez. And also we receive support from: @helpie, @aggroed, @lafona-miner, @curie, @steempress
These are community projects: @Cervantes, @Mosqueteros, @Equipocardumen, @La-colmena, @Fuerzahispana, @Cooperacion, @Inteligentzia, @Engranaje, @Minotaurototal, @Elarca, @Radiosteemit, @provenezuela, @Team-mexico, and of course, there are surely more.
You can see meet-ups, contests of all kind, challenges to write good posts and diversity of ways of community support, large and small. Other participate in other communities or in the diversity of applications of the steem blockchain.
I think the principal value in the community is the vast culture that is shared. In the majority of users, I think, persists the goal to grow in knowlenge and good relations. Of course numbers and steem prices always tricks everything a lot.
I also recomend the stats by @boddhisattva to follow what's happening with curators in various languages including polish and spanish.
I hope to have contributed a Little with you Project, always the best and I'll be attending your findings. Best regards!!
Thanks for the answers!
That is so true!
I think this user is doing a very good job. I like to browse his statistics. Especially that the topic of different communities on Steem is very interesting for me :)
Saludos desde Polonia!
Abrazo fuerte y los mejores deseos para vida y proyectos!! :)
¡Hola amigos españoles!
Hola! Saludos desde Iqique Chile!