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RE: New Libertarian Political Compass
Hi! Glad I found your profile. After reading Atlas Shrugged some years ago I could never go back. The problem I have with anarchism is that in my opinion a lot of people who call themselves anarchists are actually communist. They want the state gone, but at the same time they want to force people to live in their communist society. That makes no sense to me. Anarchism is about freedom from force and violence. Sure, create your communist society, but leave me out of it. Love the post. Got a new follower. I usually dont ask people to follow me or check out my blog, unless I actually believr you will enjoy it :) cheers
Good to meet you! Yeah, there's no going back after the Shrug.
You're definitely right about the word "anarchy" being misused a lot. I'm still surprised by how few people actually know what the word means. When you ask most people, they say that it's just a synonym for chaos. lol And yes, a lot of commies use it too.
Of course I'll take a look at your stuff. Cheers!
How can anarchism not become chaotic? Family has a governmental structure. The President of the family is the father. There is a system in place. Government is simply a structure. Companies have governance as well. Without structure, you have chaos.
Would you consider Bitshares a company? Bitshares is known as a DAC, a Decentralized Autonomous Community/Company. There is no president, and the "powers" get divided up amongst many different people. I see disagreements once in awhile and the occasional rage-quit, but Bitshares continues to grow like crazy.
As for the father being president, I have to disagree there. I am a father of two, and my wife and i share in all decisions. If she's not happy, then I sure won't be happy. You might have been taught that the man is the head of the house (church perhaps?), but the woman is the neck, and she can turn the head any way she wants. --shout out to the movie My Big Fat Greek Wedding
As for companies, I manage multiple teams of developers providing my insight and ideas, but ultimately i leave it up to them to make the right decisions on how to structure a class, function or sub-routine etc, seek out bugs, and do what they do best.. code code code. So, yes it might be my company that hired them, but giving them the freedom to do it right and collaborate directly with their peers on other dev teams around the world brings in a very nice level of decentralization in my company too. So, once designers, developers and other creatives start to see the power of decentralizing, then that hierarchy disappears as well and everyone gets a piece of the pie.
Government is good or bad? Some say it is bad. Some say government is not in family or in some decentralized groups. You might be arguing semantics, on what to call what. There is structure and design in life. We may call things with different names and labels, but those things are still there. You do not have to call yourself the boss to be the boss. As a father, you do not have to think of yourself as the leader or king to be at the top with your wife.
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Better leaders delegate. You trust in other people. They do the work. But if they do not do the work, who will fire them or how do you get rid of people if you need to? These are questions about how you do your business. The structure is a form of governance even if you choose not to label it with words that you do not like for some reason. Different people have different roles and jobs which are suited to their abilities and talents and everything. Men and women have the freedom to do what they want to do. Women can choose to do what men do. Look at the relationship between Captain Picard and his number one, Riker, in Star Trek Next Generation (STNG). Picard was at the top, but he would get advice from Riker. Many things happened in their seven seasons and in their movies. The father and mother may have that same kind of relationship. It can be rather complex or simple. It is a long story. Men are often better suited above women. That is how things work.
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Decentralization is a structure and a design.
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Government does not have to be big, bad, evil, and corrupt.
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But too often, it has been because people are bad too often.
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So, we normally hate the word "GOVERNMENT."
In Star Trek, Starfleet was a an opt-in organization. Because participation was voluntary, it was perfectly compatible with anarchism. I think it's a good example of how people will choose to participate in hierarchies and submit to legitimate authorities voluntarily.
If you are forcing your children to obey you, then yes, you are their ruler. That's not anarchist structure. An anarchist parent doesn't rule their children at all. They serve their children as service providers and never force them to do anything against their will.
Kids can choose to leave if they do not want to follow the rules. And when people come into my country, then I want them to follow the rules and laws of my country. If you do not want to follow the laws, you must pay the price or leave. The same thing is true for companies. Everything involves choice even when people say there is no choice. The choice is always there and the spanking hurts me more than it hurts you.
The word anarchy literally just means "without rulers." It doesn't mean that there can be no voluntary structures. Consent is the key. The current governments that we're accustomed rule by force, not by consent. Companies are perfectly compatible with anarchy because participation in them is voluntary. Your boss at work isn't a ruler because you're just engaged in a voluntary transaction with him and you can end your association with one another at any time.
@piedpiper, I disagree. What you said are generalities of how you see the world. A CEO can rule by force. A CEO can also engage in consent and participation and collaboration and teamwork. Government does the same thing. There does not need to be a difference between how a boss does stuff with how government leaders do things. It is the same thing or can be. A boss can be a ruler and a ruler can act like a boss. It goes both ways.
No, A CEO cannot rule by force because his employees enter into their position voluntarily and are always free to leave. It's a consensual agreement, not force. Government laws are backed by the threat of violence (theft, kidnapping, imprisonment, assault, and murder).
Kids grow up and they leave too. The husband and wife come together via a consensual agreement, something like a legal contract and commitment and smart contract, a thing we call marriage, and when a father is too bad, maybe like seen in the movie Mr. Doubt Fire starring funny comedian actor Robin Williams, and if the father is maybe too bad and abusive and is like assaulting kids and doing too bad, then the mother or others can take the kids from him. You do not like government. You have personal problems with government. That is very sad. You cannot see pass your own blind spot. You live in fear and you deflect an reflect and impose your own feelings and problems onto others by saying that they fear when you are the one that fears either accidentally and subliminally or you do know that you are in fear. You can say you have no fear but you do regardless of whether you know it or not.
When kids grow up, they're not kids anymore. Wives aren't kids either. We were talking about assaulting children. Of course marriage, as we know it, is consensual.
I object to anyone that initiates violence against others. Government is an example of that but so are parents who hit their kids. The offense is the same and when you teach kids to accept violence from you, they will grow into adults who accept violence from others like the church and state. You're raising them to be unintelligent servants rather than free and sovereign individuals.
Agreed. Some anarchists are communists / socialists /Marxists / progressives. I do not want to be too forced towards too many things like taxes or bad laws or any of those things that can become problematic maybe eventually. Some anarchists can be maybe too impractical about the world. Without government or leaderships and some structure, then many bad things do happen or can happen when there are no compensations and substitutions and replacements for the absence of government.
In a minarchy the state's only role is to protect your property, meaning your land, house, things and body. Everything else will be voluntary. Do you want someone to put out the flames if your house bursts into fire? Then its a good idea to organize and pay for a fire departement. Anarchy doesnt mean chaos. It means voluntarism. It will be your priviledge and responsibility to either chose to pay for firemen or not. You will be a grown up human being capable of taking the best decision for you.
Agreed. I want to choose to pay for it. I don't want to be forced to pay. I hate taxes. Sadly, many people feel and think and are too dependent on welfare and they are like babies that cannot live without training wheels. You would probably need to replace the government with people and groups that could come in and help those people maybe. I am not saying that we have to help some of the people who are too lazy to work, but we should consider what kind of crime they may do when they are without their precious welfare.
Yes, every government agency and program can be replaced with voluntary alternatives in the private sector.
@piedpiper, agreed, it can be replaced but that is still a process and a transition that takes time and training and everything and it is kind of tough to switch over.
People like your comments and not mine. That is bias. Everybody has bias. But I agreed with what you said. People do not understand what I am saying. We all see things through sunglasses.
Nah man, they say they're dependent but if the state dissolved, they'd adapt. barriers to entry would come crashing down and they could enter the marketplace and start grinding or they could leave town and start fresh like our ancestors. Don't mistake a leach for anything less than a highly evolved survivor. They just found out that the squeaky wheel gets the grease. They are keenly aware of how to sell emotional relief to their customers. In an open market, healthcare costs would be so low (like the way it was before big govt) and loans so reasonable that even if you gambled on it and didn't get insurance, you'd still be able to bounce back. And even then there'd still be some charity and family help. And as far as crime goes, First of all what you described is a shake down, its like paying them to not be criminals perverting the incentive. Secondly, when we're all packin heat and are an app away from rallying the neighborhood watch and alerting our insurers, desperation crime doesn't stand a chance. It would be far easier to go dumpster diving. You just sign a waiver proving you understand that the food you find isn't guaranteed to be fresh and pig out to your hearts content. I'm guessing you've never been poor before. It's not that scary. I try to make sure that I'm never more than a days march from unpaved rural terrain. I know I can scratch a living from the earth if need be. bums today with their $10 phones and over the counter vitamins are richer than all the kings of the ancient world combined. Don't let them have their way with your heart strings.
Pied Piper is downvoting my posts. He uses aggression against me. @piedpiper is attacking me. He said that discipline is bad. He said discipleship is bad. I agreed with him that abused is bad. I agree. Assault is bad. Murder is bad. We agree but he continues to attack me. I am not attacking him but he is abusing me. He is trying maybe rape me.