That is exactly right. Those forced contributions would have created rich retirees if that money had been in a modest interest bearing account.

My point is that it is not a hand out. That was money taken from people and their employers. Lumping it in with welfare is just nonsense.

Who said anything about Trump, or any of the clowns occupying the organized crime syndicate, called government?

I agree with you on another salient point @dbarzo. Trash it and start from scratch.