Cloning Gucci Mane 101 : The Misconceptions and Conspiracy

in #science8 years ago (edited)

Today, we're talking good old sci-fi doppelgangers. But, what are the true vices of this impeditive act against nature? I'm here to talk about some of the misconceptions and consequences of making another rapper when your label's new star kicks the bucket.

You Gotta Be Kidding Me

It was a few months ago now that my buddy first sat down with me one day and told me about what had to be one of the dumbest conspiracies I had ever heard. Now i've been on the internet for a long time, I know a lot of what's out there... or at least I thought so. But they've really done it this time! It seems that there are many people on the internet who are under the impression that the famous rap artist Gucci Mane has been replaced with a clone since his release from prison and is an entirely different person that the "Original Gucci". Obviously, this is a huge croc of shit, and I'm out to prove it! This time I have come with some links that I think serve as some proof to claim!


Complex | A Side By Side Analysis: Is Gucci Mane A Clone?

Time and Fitness

First things first.... Does anyone get how LONG it takes to make a clone?! Dolly the Sheep, the most famous cloned animal in history unbeknownst to most took at least an astonishing 277 attempts. From these 277, 29 early embryos came to fruition which were then implanted into 13 surrogate mothers, and of all these only 1 sheep survived, which was the well-known Dolly. But don't think these sheep were some similar to a kind of early term abortion, or failed feetus (if that's somehow the way you choose to rationalize it), but some even went through birth however, died due to complications immediately outside the womb. Dolly wasn't in best shape either once she did make it out. Born in 96 and euthanized in 02, Dollay live a short run of only 6 years, when the average Sheeps lifespan is 11 or 12. Likely due to the fact that she was cloned from a 6 year old sheep, giving her chromosomes a short lifepsan.

Putting this into context with Gucci, this would mean a sample of 300 cells would have been taken from a (hypothetical approximation here, mind you he's 37) 20 year old Gucci Mane in 2000. By 2014, China had 'reported' 70-80% success rated of embryos, but this still leaves a huge cap of technology that would have been much more advanced back in the day, to give Gucci Mane's clone any real vitality.

Genetic Expression

This one falls here and there in my opinion. To me, this is pretty damning when it comes to trying to get a clone of someone, look exactly like that person. There is a big misconception here that clones will look like a twin of their parent, however, this isn't true. Since the somatic cell transfer used in traditional animal cloning requires 3 parents, it is not uncommon that the final outcome will not reflect the genes of the initial subject. As is the case with Dolly who was not " not entirely identical to her genetic mother because the mitochondria, the power plants of the cell that are kept outside the nucleus, were inherited from Dolly’s egg donor mother.".It is also often observed that identical twins can have different genetic expressions, know as faternal twins. Because of these factors, more likely than not any attempted clone of Gucci Mane would likely look at least slightly different due to expresion of similar genes. This is regardless of the age difference which would also be a strong telltale difference between 20 year apart counterparts.

Varying Genetic Expression in Twins

Personality

Finally, the show stopper; composure. It's one thing to hire an actor, or teach someone in general to take over a persona. If there was someone who already looked like Gucci Mane, or could at least impersonate him to some degree would be much better off than any clone. This is simply because of education and intelligence. How exactly do these theorist suggest this clone is being taught to impersonate Gucci Mane. Do people no understand that this would entail essentially re-educating and teaching a brand new child from infancy to adulthood in hopes that he adopts the exact personality? Even in regular twins, we see that genetics doesn't have a direct link to thought processes or personality, so we would we allow clones this luxury? Th worst example of a failure to perform this task is the famous psychology example "Genie" also known as the feral child. This poor girl was subject to severe abuse, neglect and isolation for well over a decade, to the point where she had no social skills whatsoever and was essentially a 13 year old with the mental capability of a 13 month old. Imagine if we were to fail like this in educating and teaching clones? The results would be completely egregious. To suggest we would be able to take a fresh clone and teach it exactly how to walk, talk, act and rap like Gucci would be much harder than either of the previous parts of the clonning proccess

Genie

Final Comments

In conclusion, the notion that any has the ability to create a clone as accurate as this conspiracy community suggests is quite far-fetched and more likely than not just not possible with modern cloning techniques and practices. Hopefully, this helped clarify a few things on cloning for some of you, and helps disprove this silly conspiracy for those in the community who might believe it.

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LOL this is amazing

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Guwop clone? Really? :D This shit is too funny :D Lol

I know righttt, my buddy told me about this and I literally looked it up right away cause it was just soo funny to me. Like of all people??? Gucci can't be the man at the center of the whole conspiracy loool.

If you knew what a "clone" was you would know that a clone would look like the actual person.

A change in appearance has nothing to do with someone being cloned. lol

If anything an alter is being used. Many celebrities have alters that impersonate them because they are busy people!

If I "knew what a clone was".... ha.... obviously didn't read the article at all. And, obviously your the one who doesn't really know what a "clone" is. 100% a change appearance could be indicative of a clone, and if you think that a clone would look like the person it's cloning that is a simple misconception. Just because two organism have similar genetic code, doesn't mean we have any control over how these genes are expressed. This is what happens when we have faternal twins. Other complications in somatic cell transfer (animal cloning process) mean there is a good chance the final clone will retain genetic information from more than just the initial cloned subjected, as is with the most famous mainstream clone; Dolly.

That alter is pretty nonsense, but that's not even the proper way of explaining alters. From what I understand the common notion is that alters are shaped personalities of the a single person, which can be switched between using key words or actions of a handler. Not an impersonator.

Well I was not talking about an alter as in a split-personality now was I? Yet you change the topic to that.

You know nothing about the world you live in.

Well, that's what an alter is..... where do you think the damn word comes from? It's just a cut off of "alter-ego". If you didn't want to bring up split-personalities, you shouldn't have brought up "alters" yourself. I'm not changing the topic, just letting you know.

And woah, quite the boasted statement ey? You lost me on any sympathy now. Continue to delude yourself with whatever retarded notions of science and reason you may have. This post is an educated compilation of reasoning that denies this conspiracy. And I am obviously much more educated in this topic, and probably any other topic than you seem to imply by insinuating I "know nothing about clonning or the world you live in". Get out of here with that petty bullshit. I know that shit's a cop out because you can't debate anything I'm saying with fact. Was I wrong about what I replied to you with previously? No. But somehow I still know nothing ey...

You simply don't have any arguments or REAL points, your just staying contrary shit for no reason. You don't need to make any comment about what you believe or do not believe I know about the world, that's the true move of an agent of ignorance.

You assume that I care to debate. Cute.

Nope, I never assumed you cared to debate. Nor do I think you care if you reply to me at all. This is why I'm insulting your intelligence. You prove to me you do not want a debate and that's fine, but that is the move of someone who is small minded in their own beliefs, and can not be confront by the outside world on them without retreating.

I don't care what you choose to do, but it definitely reflects on your capability to defend yourself. You started this conversation, not me, but you act ignorant to my notions and pretentious in general.

I don't need you to care to debate, for me to slam you down even harder like I just did. I can keep going with paragraphs for days, which is why I know I'm right when you aren't even willing to reply with more than a single sentence, that in no way offers any defense to your claims.

Get off your high horse, and away from my posts then asshole, going around making comments like this doesn't help anyone in the community.

If someone doesn't feel like debating that does not make them small minded.

You are not insulting me, you are only trying to. Small minded people do that.

I mean, look how you are talking to me calling me an "asshole". Small minded people do that.

How ironic.

Lmaoo, I'm not saying you don't feel like. I'm saying you can't, or one of these replies would have already been a defense to your claims.

It's silly to me that you still attempt to flip it, your literally continuing to spend time engaging with me, but still can't be bothered to defend your position? That IS small minded.

Second, no. You tried to insult me first.... by saying I knew nothing about the world, to which I replied made me lost sympathy for your view and call you an ass. Which would actually make the last half of your comment apply to you, since you attempt to insult me and failed, and the way your are claiming "I know nothing about the world" Is another small minded claim... Ironic..... you just called yourself out and can't even see it.

Hahhahha! I heard the bullcrap also.

it's amazing what some people believe nowadays ^^"

Interesting, funny, well-written, like the whole mythbusting/skeptic magazine approach. Upvoted & Followed!

Thanks appreciate the support!! Returned the favor :)

LOL thanks for the good read and loud laughs

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