The Existence of Satellites is a Fraud and a Hoax? Here's 5 Ways You Can Know For Sure

in #science7 years ago

I can't believe that I am really having to write this article, but we've been discussing the recent rise in people who believe in a flat earth, and one of the things flat earthers deny is the existence of satellites. This is because they believe that we live under an impenetrable dome, and hence space does not actually exist.

When your fantasy cosmology requires space to not exist, well, the existence of satellites is an inconvenient fact that needs to be explained away somehow. One way they have done this is to simply deny they exist, or to claim that the lights we see in the sky passing over us are just fake satellites attached to weather balloons as part of a giant conspiracy designed to trick us into believing that space and satellites really exist.

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Image Credit: Kirkland Air Force Base

In support of their insane theory, Flat earthers will put up deceptive videos like one entitled 'PUTTING TO REST FAKE SATELLITES USING HALE TELESCOPE' (google it if you wish, but I'm not going to promote this deceptive video by linking to it). This sounds very scientific. If one of the most powerful satellites in the world proves satellites don't exists, well, it must be true!

But this is just another one of the flat earth lies (not even a half truth in this video, just outright lying) and the sum total of all the 'evidence' in the video that claims to 'put to rest' the existence of satellites, is this image, without any supporting evidence. Literally, there is nothing more about satellites in the entire video.


Image Credit: the video mentioned above

Unfortunately, the vast majority of the video is just a series of psychological triggers, such as attempting to associate the moon landing and NASA with Nazis, and an image saying, "Level 6 thinkers prove the earth is a stationary linear plane". Apparently, Level 6 thinkers think the earth is not just a plane, but a 'linear' one (very strange), and don't require evidence, just claims, since there was no evidence satellites don't exist.

Sadly, this video has over 200,000 views and there are actually people who believe this and keep spreading this video around as if it actually contains evidence proving satellites don't exist when it doesn't. Because of this, I wanted to give you all the evidence you need to prove that satellites do, indeed, exist using your own observations.

1. See Them Yourself

The first proof satellites actually exist is that you can simply see them yourself. There are several ways you can track satellites and even get phone alerts when one is going to be in your area. There are several phone apps, including:


Image Credit: HotAstronomy

While many of these satellites are too small to really see anything but lights in the sky, if you have a telescope or a really good zoom on your camera, you can actually see the International Space Station (ISS) yourself just as thousands of people have, like astronomer Torsten Edelmann did when he caught the transit of the ISS across the moon in this time lapse just above.

2. Satellite Dishes Pointing in the Direction of the Geostationary Satellites

Geostationary satellites are satellites that orbit the earth at a speed that makes them appear to be stationary relative to the earth. Most satellite dishes for internet get their satellite signals from these satellites because most areas of the world can connect to a single geostationary satellite located on the equator.


IMage Credit: Pixabay

Flat earthers deny this and say that the dishes on people's homes are really just getting data from ground based towers and not satellites. However, if you go on Google earth, or travel to extreme latitudes, you can compare where each area points their dishes. You will find that each area on earth points their dish to the equator. At the equator, dishes are pointed straight up. This is pretty solid evidence that satellites really do exist.

3. Check the raw satellite data against known events

Here's a fun way you can prove that the raw satellite data is real and hasn't been faked. There are three sets (that I am aware of) of raw satellite data that is freely available for public use:

  1. Himawari 8 Satellite- live image every 8 minutes
  2. GOES Satellite
  3. Copernicus Satellite Data- shout out to @fredrikaa for letting me know about this one

As an example of what you can do, this guy took the Himawari satellite data, cross checked it against a cloud pattern someone took from a plane, and matched up the date, time, and location of the flight and found the exact cloud pattern on the satellite data.

Such level of detail would be impossible to fake, and since anyone can check this data for themselves against weather patterns, tornados, hurricanes, wildfires, or even to Count Penguin Populations in Antarctica there would simply be no way to fake this data, especially with the incredibly high resolution each of the images provides.

4. Watching Satellite flares

Satellite flares are glints of sunlight that reflect off the surface of satellites and can be seen with with the naked eye at night. Iridium satellites are a group of 60+ satellites that are well-known for their particularly bright flares due to the size and configuration of their solar panels. Below is a video of an amateur capturing an iridium flare.

These flares can even be predicted with great accuracy, and you can go to the website Heavens-Above to track satellite flares, or some of the satellite tracking apps mentioned above also track irridium flares and will notify you of when one will occur in your area.

5. Geostationary Satellites in Star Trails

Star trails are those beautiful time lapse images of the stars that show the stars as they appear to circle the earth during the night like the one below.


Image Credit: By A. Duro/ESO via Wikimedia Commons

Well, as we mentioned, geostationary satellites are satellites that appear stationary relative to the earth. As such, they don't move on star trails and, as such, you can see these satellites as a ball of light amidst all of the lines of stars. This evidence rules out the possibility that these are fake satellites attached to weather balloons, as well, since weather balloons cannot remain stationary, particularly for months and years on end like these geostationary satellites do.

Bonus!

As an added bonus of supporting evidence for the existence of satellites, but not included in the 5 above because not directly observable, are all of the companies that make satellites and their equipment, such as: Spacex, United Launch Alliance, Bloostar, Interorbital Systems (which makes affordable 'hobby' satellites for private individuals), Arianespace, Vulcan Aerospace, and hundreds of others into which venture capitalists have invested over $8 billion in the past 5 years alone.(1).

Just think about it, does it make more sense that satellites just really do exist and what you are seeing are truly satellites, or that the government pays companies to do work to make fake satellites, fake launches, and even keep fake satellites flying through the air constantly on weather balloons, somehow keeping them flying around the world on a tight schedule (balloons are at the mercy of the winds) such that they give us apps to track them?

Since we can actually see satellites and match the raw data to real life events in the world, it's safe to say that satellites really do exist. If you don't believe me, you can find out for yourself in at least 5 easy ways.

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Two nights ago I was watching the meteor shower. There were minimum 5 a minute, in all directions. One of them flared a bright phosphorescent green (I was worried about that one for an instant...)

Flat earthers don't have an explanation for this, nor a predictive mechanism to know when the next one is.

But then, they don't believe in satellites either. So when one sees satelites moving across the sky, or shooting stars.....it's just more magical logic from them.

Yes, I saw a few good ones too, good sized ones. It's part of the Geminid Meteor Shower. We'll move right into the Quadrantids meteor shower around the 3rd of January as the first major meteor shower of 2018. All part of the annual movement through space in our elliptical orbit around the sun.

The green light from a meteor is a sign that neverbeast is about to wake up. Hehehe... pixiehollow thing.

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!

As much as one may laugh with this matter, it is rather a deplorable situation underlining a very serious one...

This article is an absolute gem in my books and I want to thank you for all the great education you provide to the masses through your excellent writing skills, links and, I guess, humour!

Upvoted for its high quality content, resteemed to spread the "gospel" ;) and shared.

Namaste :)

Superb article.

Let's just hope we don't get too many of those flat-earth people posting their 30+ "video proof" comments in here :/

I always wonder about the general format of those posts. It seems like a lot of pseudo-science ends up resorting to "evidence" bombing where they put tons of videos and arguments in a single post, hoping to convince someone by the sheer number of arguments they've found.

Though, of course, it's often video's like the one you showed that talk a lot and turn around the point, without ever proving it XD

It does become argumentation whack-a-mole as they refuse to address any points in depth.

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This flat earth nonsense is belligerent anti-intellectualism. One of the grade-school kids who regularly visits the library told me she thought the earth was flat. Admittedly, she wasn't old enough to have studied plane geometry, much less spherical geometry, but still, it was unnerving.

If you haven’t seen this yet, you might love it:

Such poignant points, I just sincerely hope you aren't simply screaming into the void.

Why do you spend so much time debunking these ridiculous theories?
It's like spending hours explaining why santa klaus doesn't exist, I mean you never see people doing this..
Responding to these claims in such detailed fashion gives conspiracy theories more weight than they deserve, so probably not the desired outcome..

Oh I don't know.

Threre's a lot of potential to educate oneself.

To debunk something requires knowledge and specifics and the ability to articulate stuff.

One might know the flat earth stuff is retarded but can one (you?) debunk it with actual scientific argument and specifics? I sure couldn't before I started. I realized that I knew it was retarded but couldn't actually articulate WHY, other than 'that's retarded'.

Knowing it's dumb, and being able to articulate why, are two very different things. It's been very educational learning WHY the flat earth arguments are, well, retarded (I think that's the best descriptor for them).

That's definitely one of the thoughts and is a valid complaint. However, there is very little good information out there countering this with easily accessible information that plays by 'their' rules that you have to be able to see things yourself or be able to do the experiments yourself to prove it.

This movement is growing , and is growing particularly in developing world countries like Indonesia and some African countries. Providing a counterpoint could at least keep some of those 'on the fence' from going over into complete cult mentality... or maybe it won't. I don't know.

I definitely hear where you are coming from and don't necessarily disagree. But it's what I'm into at the moment, and if anyone could show I was doing more harm than good, I'd stop doing it, but I'd like to believe I'm doing more good than harm.

I learn a lot about the earth doing this, and I try to make it educational for everyone as well. Like, how many people know you can do star trails of geostationary satellites or get an app to track the ISS?

I think this artical is best today

Thanks for the well-researched well-written article - always good to have an arsenal of provable facts as a rebuttal to the ridiculous flat earthers. Can't believe it's even a discussion.

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