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RE: Modern Cavemen – Prehistoric Violence. Lets get physical.

in #science6 years ago (edited)

I appreciate your wonder and motivation for search on the topic. But I felt a strong sense from your writings that you underestimated the power of culture and environment. In psychology Behavioural Theory is pretty strong and there are good reasons for that. Yes genetics and biological differences in the same species are also effective in behaviours but with many data it is confirmed that not as strong as environment. Culturaly, violence to children for example was generally a method of education and only last centuries it started to get avoided. As being a norm of society or because of psychologically defected person's use of agression, they all mostly "learned". When we digg the past of violent parents, we come across with violence in their life.

Its a deep topic and can be said alot. But one thing is for sure, we cant define human species a violent one by nature. Yes we can kill each other, yes we can kill millions with a bomb and we did. But all these can seperate us from other species as the most naturally violent creature? I don think so cause If we approach like this, we miss the real power of culture, social systems and how they rule us. Lets not forget one thing, culture (including environment) is something like an organism living out of our biology. Yes we created it but culture is not us and it is much much more powerful than any individual on earth. So If we need to start from somewhere we can start by being more careful what we create. And thats for sure it will be a slow process but there is no any other way.

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Thank you for your input. I Do not disagree however my angle was always to discover the kind of missing element. It is well researched that psychological and sociological input in anything we say, do, believe or disbelieve is the fundamental basis of being. However, having gone through being battered and bruised I was looking at the missing piece. My father was mistreated by his stepfather and so fits the psyche/ socio aspect to a tee. My mother was raised in a children's home with archaic discipline so again fits the bill. .. Yet I grew up with it and do not conform. That was my point of reference of research. I then found through research that even the WHO are now following researchers who look at basal instinct. . Ie caveman traits. And that was the point I aimed for. As I have written, I encourage everyone to look more closely, read more, discuss more and share more. .. from every angle. Take a wholistic approach, not simply focussing on one area. There appears to be some things that are unique to humans so only humans can do something about it.
Your points are well made my friend and thank you for taking time to engage.

Your are welcome. It was a pleasure for me. I got your point better. And as you said my express on culture also have the same motivation as yours cause we generally underestimate cultural effects even though they are more powerful than we think. And I want to encourage any individual to dig deep on the understanding of the environment. I can say just briefly that even our very trustworthy perception ability is shaped by culture. So even in social behavioural side there are many missing elements. I totally agree of course with your wholistic approach suggestion.

Maybe you already know but this topic was also discussed between two brilliant minds in the previous century. Einstein wrote a letter to Freud in 1931 and asked the source of the violence on human nature to Freud. Later Freud responded Einstein. The historical and pretty deep concepts of the topic are expressed in this correspondance.

You can reach more infomation from here: http://www.openculture.com/2015/09/albert-einstein-sigmund-freud-exchange-letters.html

I was aware vaguely from college study information but i will read. I'm honoured that people agree, disagree with and input to my posts. It's the only way to learn and move forwards. 😊

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