More power to resteems
I wanted to talk about something I think is pretty underrated on Steem and how we could improve it.
I know there are those "resteem services", they kind of had the right idea early on but obviously were just trying to make some easy money with no effort and are mostly ineffective at accomplishing anything.
What I mean, though, is for us to use resteems more responsible. Especially now with 50/50 we could give a lot more power to resteems. Not just as a way to resteem your friends, I admit I do that sometimes, but to resteem as a curator. There have been many cases in the past where I have unfollowed certain users because all the do is resteem, if they don't understand how spammy that can get onto someone's feed then I can't say they didn't deserve it - I endured it for some time before it got too much. So at the same time as you can see there are consequences for being a bad resteemer, who knows if I will ever stumble upon that account again or naturally follow him - which in his case may mean less future rewards cause the chance of receiving a vote from me may be gone forever.
One thing I think Steemit should add (unless steempeak beats them to it - paging @justineh for the idea) is to add notes to resteems. Say you want to resteem a certain post for a certain reason the same way I did a few weeks ago, where I didn't really plan on voting it up cause it seemed shady but I wanted it to receive more attention from my followers so they could weigh in their opinions on the post. You click resteem and similar to retweets it will ask you if you want to add a comment with it that your followers will be able to see on their feeds above the post or wherever.
Resteems are way stronger nowadays with the 50/50 EIP, it can turn everyone into a successful curator - if you are good at it. Say you find a very good intro post that has no votes and you give it a 100% upvote and resteem it to your x amount of followers that enjoy what you usually resteem. They will naturally vote it up which means you'll receive much higher curation rewards for that one post that day, it turns everyone into their own curation guilds in a way.
If only we could create some sort of added incentive to be a good resteemer, say a bot that checks for stats of resteemed posts and how well they did afterwards but giving it some time for them to have the chance to be "missed", so people don't resteem posts at 3 minutes and expect to do well in that tracker, cause if it gives extra incentive to good resteemers like rewards then people will obviously try and abuse it, like most things in life. :P
Since we don't have tags yet though, it would be great for people to look out for resteems. In many cases the author who resteems may leave a comment, give them an upvote on the comment just thanking them for resteeming it which lead you to finding the post you enjoyed. Give the post a nice vote of encouragement, leave a comment thanking the person who resteemed it and give them some more value naturally.
I think it's a powerful tool that is kind of underrated but we could make it bigger by using it correctly and efficiently.
I remember on Twitch there was this thing that people used where right before they were about to go offline on their stream and had a large audience, they'd go and "raid" another streamer they liked or enjoyed their content - bringing their audience onto their channel before going offline. Shortly after that Twitch added a way to broadcast others streams on your page when you were offline - they saw how valuable it was and kept the viewers viewing so they adapted fast from something that just started as a simple thing people started doing cause they felt it was the right thing instead of letting the audience scatter all over the platform. Of course it's not exactly like resteems but we can easily give it more value by using them properly and curators curating them effectively if used well.
Who knows, maybe we can make the resteems as magical as big upvotes are over time - it could turn users with low stake into power users as well if they have a big following that loves their resteems and always curates them.
Anyway, just a thought and something we could focus more on now with the recent changes since the HF. Let me know your thoughts!
I’ve often talked about a desire for a resteem with comment feature. You’re absolutely right that the higher curation rewards give resteems more use in maximizing curation, but I’ve advocated taking it a step further.
Any kind of comment is going to necessitate a new “post” as far as the blockchain logic goes I believe. So I’d like to see a system that auto sets the author of the resteemed post as a substantial beneficiary.
So if I resteem this post with a comment it actually creates a new top level post with the referenced post embedded. Any votes my commented resteem gathers are split between me and you, perhaps 30/70 resteem/original author?
The major benefit to a system like this is that it creates “evergreen” content. An undiscovered gem that’s 6 months old could be found, shared, go “viral” and get 50 more resteems... and suddenly that author has 51 pending payouts from their 6 month old content. Or a well crafted tutorial may get a steady share or two each week as someone drops it in their own feed letting their followers know how useful it was. It takes no more blockchain resources than someone dropping a comment under the post and tagging a friend, but it rewards the original content author.
Curation also takes on a whole new aspect, as resteeming becomes a whole new field of curation. Well curated “magazine” style accounts could do well for themselves while the system auto pays out to the content creators they’re building around. The system would have to be largely self policing, as with all things Steem as resteem spammers would be unfollowed or outright downvoted.
I think an innovative front end like SteemPeak would be a logical place to try something like this out, as it really could be just an automated UI component with no underlying blockchain changes.
I really like this idea. The idea that content is worthless after 7 days has really bugged me.
This sounds great!
I couldn't agree more with this idea acidyo.
I've often wanted to add a little note to my resteems, much like you can on fbook or twitter when you share on either of those places. That way you could inspire further conversation on a person's post based on what attracted you to it.
I have to admit I rarely resteem, even my friends, as I see it as as direct curation and I'm super fussy about quality and what I resteem being complimentary to the style of content I'm producing at the time. But I do think I'd resteem a lot more if we could add a little note.
I've felt the powerful effect of the whale resteem when Dan resteemed the 'call to action' post I made about the noonies awards. The post got a tone of notice by a load of old school steemians who don't follow my account. I feel like if people could add notes the higher SP holders could add extra impetus to posts like that by giving people a quick summary of what the post is about. In this world of diminishing attention spans it could really help pulling people into reading important content.
I'm not sure about monitising the resteem feature at blockchain level though. I too remember those resteem services and really don't follow, or like, users who resteem tones of posts/day. What it comes down to is balancing it all so it doesn't ruin the whole mechanism of the 'follow' function. Most of the time i follow someone based on the expectation of seeing more of the same type/style of content that originally interested me when I discovered them.
Interesting and thought provoking post acidyo 👍
I may be wrong but I think "adding notes", while maintaining the upvote mechanic for the original post, would require a chain upgrade to make that possible. Since a resteem is merely a share of the original comment.
The question then would become does the curator (resteemer) also deserve the possibility to earn for finding.
The ideal comparison here is Twitter's dual retweet mechanic. Just retweet the original tweet and have all RT, Favs, and replies be on the original tweet or Retweet with comment, where the original Tweet is shown in line, complete with regular mechanics but the "comment tweet" becomes its own post... with an embedded post.
It's not that simple for that feature.
As a curator i find resteeming for people with high reps is most efficient to do after the 2-4 day mark, so that way you bring it back into the feed. For people with a rep lower then 50, I will resteem right away, due to I know they have not gained much followers yet.
Comments to resteems would be nice. They would have to be very short, of course.
And yes, resteems are a very underrated tool for curation. Now that 50/50 has been in effect for a couple of weeks, I've resteemed a lot more than before. It is fascinating to observe voting on a post when it is worth pretty high, say $20, and resteeming it after which it goes up to $100 in a matter of a couple of days. Far more often a post will reach its final valuation within 15 minutes to an hour.
I love this idea. I often resteem things and want to say WHY, and when I see mine resteemed, I want to know why they liked it. And then I see others who resteem and I"m like --- hmmm, why is this resteem worthy? It's a nice little add on to increase interactions in meangingful ways.
Totally agree, and that's one of the main reason I rarely resteem as I don't like throwing something out there without adding any comment or explanation. Granted I have come across some good posts via resteem, but having that extra comment from the resteemer will add a lot more credibility to an otherwise undervalued post. And I think the resteem comment should be compulsory and more than 20 characters so people gotta type more than "This is a great post"
Ironically 20 characters. Lol
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22 chars would be better.
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yes yes yes
would be cool to have note function to resteem
PLEASE GIVE MORE CREDIT TO RESTEEMS
I do that all the time so I should be rewarded for the action.
Also, ironically found resteemed from an author I was just about to pass in partiko points. (@onealfa)
I look at each user as I pass them to see if they have good stuff and worth following / are still active)
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