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RE: Should I accept atheism?

in #religion8 years ago

Science has never been able to bust the Bible despite centuries of trying.
There you have eyewitness accounts of the many demonstrations He has made of His power and love.

Please disregard the philosophical arguments about whether you can prove God exists from first principles. You can't.

Please disregard the arguments that various splinter groups about the details. We are human and we will disagree in thousands of ways about what it all means.

But the basics are still the same. There was a person named Jesus Christ who did and said amazing things.

Science can't address that. All we've got is credible eyewitness accounts.

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Youre merely just claiming god exists though. Youre also claiming eyewitness accounts are credible and for this you have no proof of credibility other than the bible itself. Youve said yourself god cant be proven, and if thats true id argue that god cant be known. There are many books with many accounts claimed to be true, yet you dont believe them all, why? Why arnt you mormon, or jahovas witness, if all you require is a cleverly written story based on "eye witness accounts"? Id argue youre one person on one path amongst millions on their own, and truely you have no idea nor right to say what everyone should believe. You believe youre bible is accurate for reasons only you know. If you think you have a good reason, explain it. If your reasoning is sound why would someone not agree?

I've explained this many times already in this forum and I invite you to examine my recent posts over the past 14 days or so.
The others you named are not credible for reasons I have stated.
In each case the behavior of the leaders was to make stuff up and change things on the fly to further their own glory, power and wealth. In other words, they were caught fibbing by their contemporaries.
The 66 carefully preserved documents from 44 separate authors over 2000+ years that have been gathered together in one library called the Bible never gained any of that from their testimony and in fact most of them died alone and destitute for failing to recant their accounts.

The Bible is not just one book it is a collection of all relevant documents that exist. So naturally there are no others outside that library since every effort was made to make it a complete collection.

On the other hand, the others you mention do have plenty of evidence of being unreliable.

Finally, the accounts we have did not just appear one day out of nowhere. Each author was known well in his generation and the works were valued and preserved down through the ages. No other historical document comes close to it's pedigree.

I agree that credibility is in the eye of the beholder and am only testifying that I found it credible.
I understand that there is a category of people who won't and a category of people who do.

So are all the other people who are non Christ believers wrong? I don't mean to start a debate on religion but even if I had to believe in a creator- it would be one creator for the whole world-- not one for each religion- so religion for me is something totally made up by man itself - my question was more related to the debate of is there a creator or not?

Thanks for your reply

This is true. There is indeed a secular man-made Oprah Winfrey "religion" that says "there couldn't possibly be only one way"

You are correct to deduce that every religion can't have it's own god. There can be only one true God.

Assuming that is true, then it wouldn't be surprising if he decided that there is only one way to meet his acceptance criteria. (Try getting into a university without meeting their application requirements.)

So, look at every belief system and see where it comes from. If it is a single self-proclaimed prophet, watch out.

It stands to reason that if God had rules he would communicate them to mankind as early in our history as possible and preserve a consistent record of those communications down through history.

See if you can find evidence of that. :o)

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