Keeping Saturn in Saturnalia with Baron Samedi
What started as a joke is turning out to be a challenging article that ties a lot of things that i have been writing together. I do write in at least 50% of my dreams; alas, i forget what i have been told after i wake from my slumber. Last night we were discussing Jews and Saturnalia, but i cannot remember who was there or what i am supposed to write. Fortunately, when i was researching Saturnalia today, i found a video with Gnostic Reviser, John Lamb Lash in which he discusses the "archonic infection" omfuckingTurtles (the Mighty Ninja Turtles, that is...lol), i think he was describing what i call the slinkies. Since this is so complicated i did a separate blog about the archons
"Could the 'Slinkies' Be Archons??? Could the Hexagram be the Mark of the Archonic Infection that Leads to Harming Kids in Rituals???"
@ https://citedinfo.blogspot.com/2017/12/could-slinkies-be-archons-could.html
My plans to bring Saturn as Baron Samedi back into Saturnalia, what is Saturnalia, what does Judaism Online tell Us, what does a Christian cite say, what does Ask Historians say about human sacrifice in Saturnalia, Mysteries of Earth had some great information on Saturn and Baron Samedi from a Hindu perspective, Horropedia tells Us the low-down on Baron Samedi, and Benjamin Freedman's Speech on WW1,2, and possibly 3 will be discussed in this article. Again, i don't wish to choose Your Path, but to let You know that there are many Saturnian deities we can recognize if we so choose.
My Plans to Bring Saturn as Baron Samedi Back Into Saturnalia
I agree with the theory that Christmas replaced Saturnalia so that Pagans would be more likely to accept Christianity when the elite Jews and Romans first organized Catholism in Rome. I also believe that Baron Samedi is based on Saturn just like Chronus/Saturn who was honored during Saturnalia. My joke, that i am 100% serious about, is that i am celebrating Baron Samedi during Saturnalia with some drunkenness and drug induced Shamanic Journeys.
My blog about Baron Samedi is @ https://citedinfo.blogspot.com/2017/11/the-fuing-awesome-bawon-of-saturday-no.html
I have written a blog
"Saturn Based deities from Voodoo to Greece to Present Day~ it's time to bring back the Olde gods +++ase+++ " @ http://citedinfo.blogspot.com/2017/07/saturn-based-deities-from-voodoo-to.html
which demonstrates how mankind seems to give evil traits to their deities. Saturn itself is not evil, but people use It's power to do evil things.
In my research of Saturnalia i ran across a Jewish site that promotes the flowery speech that smells like rotten fish which i associate with the Force behind their god of the heaxagram, Baal/Molech who is Saturnian. There is also Christian site that is pretty brutal. Both sites demonize Paganism and claim that human sacrifice was done by folks celebrating Saturnalia.
Last night was the full moon on December 3rd beginning Mercury Retrograde, and once again i dreamed of exposing monotheism. There is one more site i need, but not sure what it is, yet. On December 5th i am listening Benjamin Freedman who explains that Jesus was a Judean and not a Jew. On December 5 i did a separate blog on the archonic infection theory to make this easier to organize.
What is Saturnalia???
Wikipedia says that "Saturnalia was an ancient Roman festival in honour of the god Saturn, held on 17 December of the Julian calendar and later expanded with festivities through to 23 December. The holiday was celebrated with a sacrifice at the Temple of Saturn, in the Roman Forum, and a public banquet, followed by private gift-giving, continual partying, and a carnival atmosphere that overturned Roman social norms: gambling was permitted, and masters provided table service for their slaves.[1] The poet Catullus called it 'the best of days'.[2]." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturnalia
What Does Judaism Online Tell Us???
This site is one reason my easy blog about celebrating Saturnalia with my Saturn based deity turned into a complicated project to expose the high probability that Saturn is still the Jew god. It is not necessary to read all of this; however, it is included to show the way that Zionist controlled media makes the Jews seem like the most important people in the world. How about Mothers who are afraid to vaccinate their babies this very day to exhibit how much America/Precious Mother Earth is influenced by some kind of evilish power that loves money above all else???
"How Did Christmas Come to Be Celebrated on December 25?
A. Roman pagans first introduced the holiday of Saturnalia, a week long period of lawlessness celebrated between December 17-25. During this period, Roman courts were closed, and Roman law dictated that no one could be punished for damaging property or injuring people during the weeklong celebration. The festival began when Roman authorities chose 'an enemy of the Roman people' to represent the 'Lord of Misrule.' Each Roman community selected a victim whom they forced to indulge in food and other physical pleasures throughout the week. At the festival’s conclusion, December 25th, Roman authorities believed they were destroying the forces of darkness by brutally murdering this innocent man or woman.
B. The ancient Greek writer poet and historian Lucian (in his dialogue entitled Saturnalia) describes the festival’s observance in his time. In addition to human sacrifice, he mentions these customs: widespread intoxication; going from house to house while singing naked; rape and other sexual license; and consuming human-shaped biscuits (still produced in some English and most German bakeries during the Christmas season)." Please note that there is no citation for this claim.
"C. In the 4th century CE, Christianity imported the Saturnalia festival hoping to take the pagan masses in with it. Christian leaders succeeded in converting to Christianity large numbers of pagans by promising them that they could continue to celebrate the Saturnalia as Christians.[2]
D. The problem was that there was nothing intrinsically Christian about Saturnalia. To remedy this, these Christian leaders named Saturnalia’s concluding day, December 25th, to be Jesus’ birthday.
E. Christians had little success, however, refining the practices of Saturnalia... The earliest Christmas holidays were celebrated by drinking, sexual indulgence, singing naked in the streets (a precursor of modern caroling), etc.
F. The Reverend Increase Mather of Boston observed in 1687 that “the early Christians who first observed the Nativity on December 25 did not do so thinking that Christ was born in that Month, but because the Heathens’ Saturnalia was at that time kept in Rome, and they were willing to have those Pagan Holidays metamorphosed into Christian ones.”[3] Because of its known pagan origin, Christmas was banned by the Puritans and its observance was illegal in Massachusetts between 1659 and 1681.[4] However, Christmas was and still is celebrated by most Christians.
G. Some of the most depraved customs of the Saturnalia carnival were intentionally revived by the Catholic Church in 1466 when Pope Paul II, for the amusement of his Roman citizens, forced Jews to race naked through the streets of the city. An eyewitness account reports, 'Before they were to run, the Jews were richly fed, so as to make the race more difficult for them and at the same time more amusing for spectators. They ran… amid Rome’s taunting shrieks and peals of laughter, while the Holy Father stood upon a richly ornamented balcony and laughed heartily.'[5]
H. As part of the Saturnalia carnival throughout the 18th and 19th centuries CE, rabbis of the ghetto in Rome were forced to wear clownish outfits and march through the city streets to the jeers of the crowd, pelted by a variety of missiles. When the Jewish community of Rome sent a petition in1836 to Pope Gregory XVI begging him to stop the annual Saturnalia abuse of the Jewish community, he responded, 'It is not opportune to make any innovation.'[6] On December 25, 1881, Christian leaders whipped the Polish masses into Antisemitic frenzies that led to riots across the country. In Warsaw 12 Jews were brutally murdered, huge numbers maimed, and many Jewish women were raped. Two million rubles worth of property was destroyed." Yet, another claim with no citation. This site seems to have done a great job of describing the Pagan rituals that are entwined in Christmas so i feel no need to check all of these sites. I do; however, feel the need to express that it has been Christians massacring, enslaving, and decimating Pagan Peoples and Lands and not the other way around for the last 2 K years.
Will the "Burning Times" Ever End? is my blog that looks deepr at this subject @ https://citedinfo.blogspot.com/2017/02/will-burning-times-ever-end.html
"III. The Origins of Christmas Customs
A. The Origin of Christmas Tree
Just as early Christians recruited Roman pagans by associating Christmas with the Saturnalia, so too worshippers of the Asheira cult and its offshoots were hrecruited by the Church sanctioning “Christmas Trees”.[7] Pagans had long worshipped trees in the forest, or brought them into their homes and decorated them, and this observance was adopted and painted with a Christian veneer by the Church.
B. The Origin of Mistletoe
Norse mythology recounts how the god Balder was killed using a mistletoe arrow by his rival god Hoder while fighting for the female Nanna. Druid rituals use mistletoe to poison their human sacrificial victim.[8] The Christian custom of 'kissing under the mistletoe' is a later synthesis of the sexual license of Saturnalia with the Druidic sacrificial cult.[9]
C. The Origin of Christmas Presents
In pre-Christian Rome, the emperors compelled their most despised citizens to bring offerings and gifts during the Saturnalia (in December) and Kalends (in January). Later, this ritual expanded to include gift-giving among the general populace. The Catholic Church gave this custom a Christian flavor by re-rooting it in the supposed gift-giving of Saint Nicholas (see below).[10]" (Judaism Online, n.d.).
In rebuttal,their own symbolism suggests that Saturn is still the god/Planet worshiped by the oppressors/zionist.
David Icke does a bang up job discussing this theory @
What Does Christian Cite, World's Last Chance, Say???
Lol...for giggles
"The pagan Romans honored the god, Saturn, with a week-long festival in December called Saturnalia. Saturn was the Roman god of time and of the harvest, so he was usually depicted holding a scythe. He was the cruelest, most evil of all the pagan gods. He demanded child sacrifice.
The Romans were not alone in worshipping this evil god. Worship of Saturn was prevalent in the ancient world. Even the Israelites worshipped Saturn when in rebellion against heaven. The god Israel most frequently worshipped when in apostasy, was the god Saturn, (referred to in the Bible as Chiun, Molech, or Remphan.) Even the Israelites offered their children in sacrifice to this vile, blood-thirsty god."
"Saturn had become the champion of African paganism [as well] . . . indeed as Baal-Hammon in Phoenician Carthage, he was the object of child sacrifice . . . . Although a fertility god, Saturn-Baal . . . was nonetheless ruthless in the sacrifices he exacted.' (Quodvultdeus of Carthage, translation and commentaries, Thomas Macy Finn, pp. 14 & 15.)"
"Although the Romans quit offering human sacrifice early on, blood was still spilled by the gladiators during the Saturnalia celebrations in December. Saturnalia was a religious celebration and all understood that the blood shed by gladiators was a sacrificial offering to Saturn.
'The gladiatorial shows were sacred [to Saturn].' (Johann D. Fuss, Roman Antiquities, p. 359)
'The amphitheatre claims its gladiators for itself, when at the end of December they propitiate with their blood the sickle-bearing Son of Heaven [Saturn].' (Ausonius, Eclog, i. p. 156)
Saturn also emerges in modern society as the Grim Reaper, gathering in his bleak harvest of souls. Very few in modern society have recognized that Father Christmas, the Grim Reaper and Old Father Time are none other than this most loathsome of all the gods. However, an ancient would immediately recognize them all as being none other than Saturn. The emblems which identified Saturn are the same which identify Old Father Time and the Grim Reaper: scythes and something to mark the passage of time" (World's Last Chance, 2017). Another lol...
What Does Ask Historians Say About Human Sacrifice in Saturnalia???
"I have found multiple articles online saying there was human sacrifice but they don't seem that reliable. I have been learning/taking latin in school for the last 4 years and throughout my time in class, there was no mention of human sacrifice, but of the sacrifice of animals. I looked up the general topic of human sacrifice and I found that happened very rarely and was only documented a few times by livy and Pulcher. I also found that it was outlawed around 100 BCE but that was more or less a formality because human sacrifice almost never happened. This is why I'm confused I have conflicting sources saying that human sacrifice happened during saturnalia but also I have sources saying that it rarely happened at all in Roman culture" (Ask Historians, 2016). I don't know, and i ain't wasting my Necromancy skills to find out because it doesn't matter. Those who were sacrificed were done so because of people, and not Saturn.
Mysteries of Earth Had Some Great Information on Saturn and Baron Samedi
from a Hindu Perspective
"In fact, today is Saturn's 'birthday'; I am assured of this because I belong to a Hindu Shani devotional website and I am kept updated on such events, which are important to me.
It is a curious fact that I received reliable information that the people who follow the rites of Vaudou are concurrently propitiating the African Power 'Baron Samedi', who is, of course Saturn; the 'Seven African Powers', refers, of course, to the Seven Planetary Powers who move through the Zodiac; all can be and has been learned and taught and categorized under the Tree of Life, by Thelemitic practitioners of the rites of the 'Obeah' and the 'Wanga'. Thus the two traditions both concur that this time has a certain Saturnian gravity behind it.
The actual planet, so admirably documented by Cassini-Huygens (does anyone else think it perfectly apposite that the name of the Archangel of Saturn is 'Cassiel'?) is currently occupying the last decan of Libra, which means nothing to most people, but to astrologers it is most significant: Saturn is 'exalted' in the Sign of Libra, and it will be a long time (30 years before it is in such an auspicious position again) so it would seem a prudent time to 'get in good' with 'the Monarch'.
There are various ways to do this; being an Aghori Tantric, I make use of the Hindu methods, myself, chiefest among which is the use of storytelling as a method of healing and enlightenment. Dr. Robert E. Svoboda has written an extremely insightful essay on the topic in his masterly translation of the Shani Mahatmyam ("The Greatness of Saturn".)
By way of a bonus (for us astrologers, anyway) he also includes the mythology of the other 7 planets, cleverly engaging one's interest by the device of presenting it as an event: seven pundits have been invited to hold forth on their planets as part of a discussion between them and a philosopher-king.
Before there was the Internet to engage our attention, people in India would attend religious debates and watch them with the rapt attention nowadays bestowed on objects bearing small screens.
One thing I found interesting about the Hindu attributes of Saturn was that the metal ascribed to Saturn was not lead but iron.
Lead was ascribed to the Nodes of the Moon, Rahu and Ketu; what in Western astrology, is known as the 'Head and the Tail of the Dragon.'
When you think about it, humble, utilitarian iron is surely the most useful of all metals, only superseded in this respect by aluminum, which is ruled by Uranus, which was, when it was discovered, was given the Sign of Aquarius.-before that, Aquarius was attributed to the planet Saturn.
Humanity has engendered HUGE amounts of karma in search of and the refinement and deployment of iron; it is quite staggering to think about, if one actually contemplates the facts of the matter.
It is am interesting fact that the Sufis say that consciousness first arose in the Earth at the metallic i.e. mineral level , progressed to the plant level, then through the animal level and then to the human level. But the thing is: the evolution of consciousness has not stopped; we are told we still have a long way to go yet.
This is what is meant by 'spiritual evolution': that which participates in 'evolution' goes forward into the future, adding to the store of humanity's knowledge; that which does not evolve fades out and is cast into the nether darkness of the Qliphoth.
Saturn rules 'end processes' and thus has overlordship over the Qliphothic abyss, since it is the 'cesspool' of the universe. it is because of this association that Saturn becomes the 'Lord of the Material World'- that is to say, 'the Devil' . (Scarletharlot, 2012). Simply fascinating gem of knowledge gleaned from the internet. May Scarletharlot be blessed for this great knowledge he shared +++ase+++
Horropedia Tells Us the Low-Down on Baron Samedi
"Those in the Haitian Vodou practices that serve the loa are the Bokor. The Bokor are the Vodou priest/priestesses who can be hired to perform various sorcery. The Bokor practice both light and dark forms of magic. The Dark magic that they practice revolves mainly around the creation of zombies through the use of a mixture of poisons. These poisons are derived mainly from puffer fish and other poisonous substances.(para.7)
Baron Kriminel is presented with food he does not like, he will bite chunks out of the arms of the possessed person. He sometimes calls for sacrifices of black chickens to be doused in petrol and set alight. The shrieking of the chickens when being burned alive is said to appeal to the cruel nature of Baron Kriminel and appease him.
Samedi ensures all corpses rot in the ground to stop any soul from being brought back as a brainless zombie. What he demands in return depends on his mood. Sometimes he is content with his followers wearing black, white or purple clothes or using sacred objects; he may simply ask for a small gift of cigars, rum, black coffee, grilled peanuts or bread" (Horrorpedia, 2013).
Burning chickens alive is a cruel aspect of this avatar of Baron Samedi or Saturn but it's a far cry from sacrificing children. Look up you tube videos of the ways chickens are treated in slaughterhouses if You think humans aren't cruel enough on their own. Nevertheless, i do NOT identify with Baron Kriminel. Baron Samedi LOVES children and i DA BOMB on doing exorcising of archons which i linked at the beginning of this blog, and He digs dirty jokes, cigars, hooch, drugs, and other fun things to give.
Benjamin Freedman's Speech on WW1,2, and possibly 3
Excerpts of this speech are included to help the reader understand the depths of fuckery that Zionism, who uses the hexagram as Saturnian Cube worship, has wrought upon mankind. So, why not send some good energy to an aspect of this Planet Who isn't so evilish. In fact, He's rather fun and very powerful.
Mr. Freedman's 1961 speech explains the politics of WWI and WW II beginning at 9 min 39 seconds. "Now the war -- World War One -- in which the United States participated had absolutely no reason to be our war. We went in there -- we were railroaded into it -- if I can be vulgar, we were suckered into -- that war merely so that the Zionists of the world could obtain Palestine. Now, that is something that the people in the United States have never been told. They never knew why we went into World War One. Now, what happened?
After we got into the war, the Zionists went to Great Britain and they said: "Well, we performed our part of the agreement. Let's have something in writing that shows that you are going to keep your bargain and give us Palestine after you win the war.' Because they didn't know whether the war would last another year or another ten years. So they started to work out a receipt. The receipt took the form of a letter, and it was worded in very cryptic language so that the world at large wouldn't know what it was all about. And that was called the Balfour Declaration.
The Balfour Declaration was merely Great Britain's promise to pay the Zionists what they had agreed upon as a consideration for getting the United States into the war. So this great Balfour Declaration, that you hear so much about, is just as phony as a three dollar bill. And I don't think I could make it more emphatic than that.
Now, that is where all the trouble started. The United States went in the war. The United States crushed Germany. We went in there, and it's history. You know what happened. Now, when the war was ended, and the Germans went to Paris, to the Paris Peace Conference in 1919, there were 117 Jews there, as a delegation representing the Jews, headed by Bernard Baruch. I was there: I ought to know.
Further into the speech he explains that "there was a conspiracy between England, France, and Russia that: 'We must slap down Germany', because there isn't one historian in the world that can find a valid reason why those three countries decided to wipe Germany off the map politically. Now, what happened after that?
When Germany realized that the Jews were responsible for her defeat, they naturally resented it. But not a hair on the head of any Jew was harmed. Not a single hair. Professor Tansill, of Georgetown University, who had access to all the secret papers of the State Department, wrote in his book, and quoted from a State Department document written by Hugo Schoenfelt, a Jew who Cordell Hull sent to Europe in 1933 to investigate the so-called camps of political prisoners. And he wrote back that he found them in very fine condition.
They were in excellent shape; everybody treated well. And they were filled with Communists. Well, a lot of them were Jews, because the Jews happened to be maybe 98 per cent of the Communists in Europe at that time. And there were some priests there, and ministers, and labor leaders, Masons, and others who had international affiliations.
Now, the Jews sort of tried to keep the lid on this fact. They didn't want the world to really understand that they had sold out Germany, and that the Germans resented that."
Another interesting point he made is "well, that's the way they were fighting the Jews in Germany. And, at that time, mind you, there were 80 to 90 million Germans and there were only 460,000 Jews. . . less than one half of one percent of Germany were Jews. And yet, they controlled all of the press, they controlled most of the economy, because they had come in and with cheap money -- you know the way the Mark was devalued -- they bought up practically everything" (Freedman, 1961).
Towards the end of his speech Mr. Freedman (1961) states that "in the meanwhile, I had lived in Germany, and I knew that the Germans had decided [that] Europe is going to be Christian or Communist: there is no in between. It's going to be Christian or it's going to be Communist. And the Germans decided: "We're going to keep it Christian if possible". And they started to re-arm.
And there intention was -- by that time the United States had recognized the Soviet Union, which they did in November, 1933 -- the Soviet Union was becoming very powerful, and Germany realized: 'Well, our turn is going to come soon, unless we are strong.' The same as we in this country are saying today, 'Our turn is going to come soon, unless we are strong." Mr Freedman also explained that he is coming forward because he is concerned about WWIII starting to help the Jews conquer Palestine. He kindly states "he life you save may be your sons" (Freedman, 1961).
So, why not send some good energy to an aspect of this Planet Who isn't so evilish. In fact, He's rather fun and very powerful. I propose that it's not a Pagan thing to harm others for sacrifice as most of us don't believe in harming Innocents. Hurting others is a personal thing, not a religious one, unless a religion promotes harming others.
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My tree to honor the Death god of my choice, Baron Samedi <3
