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RE: Understanding the Subconscious #1: Introduction - Seeing It First Hand

in #psychology7 years ago

Great blog.

I read somewhere that scientists discovered our bodies act before we think. We act instinctively and then reason through our actions. For example, your hand involuntarily reaches for a cup of coffee and, upon noticing it, you think that you want a coffee. It all happens so quickly that you are convinced it was the thought that motivated you to act. In relaity, your conscious mind wasn't involved almost at all.

It's funny how many people are actually terrified at the very thought of subconscious mind even being there. Some people, when they think of it, they imagine some sinister thing controlling their life. Its relative independence from the conscious mind means that they have no control over it. Instead of wanting to learn how to communicate and access the subconscious, they pretend it is not there.

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You might enjoy this TED talk. It shows some of the research you mentioned, but seeing it in action is fascinating. If you don't have time for the whole thing, the main experiment starts at about 10:22.

This video applies some of the research he talks about. Watch (possibly twice, as it's a catchy tune) and then ask for the spoiler. :)

I didn't think I liked Devo until someone played me their basement demo recordings. Changed my whole view of them.

Ok... spoiler?

Watch the guy with the glasses. Or, watch his glasses.

He's changing the filter he uses to look at the world?

This is a nice roundup of a lot of research, some of it I haven't thought about in awhile.

It's all great stuff, but a bit dated even for 2015. It's like he's scratching around the brim of dual process theory but hasn't quite had the full "aha!" yet.

Dual process theory is new to me. I'm digging into it now and will get back to you soon.

Downloaded. Will watch soon.

I read somewhere that scientists discovered our bodies act before we think. We act instinctively and then reason through our actions. For example, your hand involuntarily reaches for a cup of coffee and, upon noticing it, you think that you want a coffee. It all happens so quickly that you are convinced it was the thought that motivated you to act. In relaity, your conscious mind wasn't involved almost at all.

Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight? I'll get back to that.

The conscious mind isn't involved in tasks that don't require it. For example, I was consciously focused on the mechanics of typing when I was learning to type, now my subconscious mind taken has taken over that task for me so that I can get onto more interesting things, like focusing on the words and the meaning of what's being typed. It's pointless to ask me what the specific reasoning is behind any motion my fingers make, I'm not thinking about my fingers as I'm typing.

A lot of research that relies on self-reports (i.e. researcher pokes subject and asks them "Why are you doing that?") fails to recognize that simply asking the question is the reason for the answer. If you were to stop someone in the middle of reaching for a coffee cup, and ask them why, you have stopped them in the middle of an action for which no such answer was needed. The reasoning for their actions are on a higher level than merely reaching once for a coffee cup. It takes several reaches for the cup to drink the entire thing, so thinking out and planning each and every step would be a considerable waste of brain power, just the same as intentionally planning out each key I press as I type.

So what's really going on here is that the person being asked the question is being put on the spot to come up with an answer. Unfortunately, the norm is to accept one's thoughts automatically. There's lots of mayhem and fun that can be had knowing this:

People answer questions without stopping to consider if an answer is needed.

Click, whirr.

What's your favorite flavor of bowling ball?

Some people, when they think of it, they imagine some sinister thing controlling their life.

Nail, hit right the on head. 10 points.

It's funny how many people are actually terrified at the very thought of subconscious mind even being there. Some people, when they think of it, they imagine some sinister thing controlling their life. Its relative independence from the conscious mind means that they have no control over it. Instead of wanting to learn how to communicate and access the subconscious, they pretend it is not there.

Thought you might dig the following quote:

One of the greatest of all fallacies about the practice of ritual magic is the notion that one must believe in the powers of magic before one can be harmed or destroyed by them. Nothing could be farther from the truth, as the most receptive victims of curses have always been the greatest scoffers. The reason is frighteningly simple. The uncivilized tribesman is the first to run to his nearest witch-doctor or shaman when he feels a curse has been placed upon him by an enemy. The threat and presence of harm is with him consciously, and belief in the power of the curse is so strong that he will take every precaution against it. Thus, through the application of sympathetic magic, he will counteract any harm that might come his way. This man is watching his step, and not taking any chances.

On the other hand, the "enlightened" man, who doesn't place any stock in such "superstition", relegates his instinctive fear of the curse to his unconscious, thereby nourishing it into a phenomenally destructive force that will multiply with each succeeding misfortune. Of course, every time a new setback occurs, the non-believer will automatically deny any connection with the curse, especially to himself. The emphatic conscious denial of the potential of the curse is the very ingredient that will create its success, through setting-up of accident prone situations. In many instances, the victim will deny any magical significance to his fate, even unto his dying gasp...

Anon LaVey, The Satanic Bible

That's a good quote, I do like it! It reminds me of the anecdote about Niels Bohr and a horseshoe.

A visitor commented to Niels Bohr, the famous atom scientist and Nobel prize winner:
Visitor—I’m surprised to see that you have a horseshoe hanging over your door. Do you, a sober man dedicated to science, believe in that superstition?
Bohr—Of course not, but I’ve been told it’s supposed to be lucky whether you believe in it or not.

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