@lemouth, I am very pleased to hear this post has sparked these reflections in you. And, I couldn't agree more with the two points you have made here.

Breaking the cycle in such cases is incredibly hard, because it requires energy and determination. Two things that are severely depleted by negative thoughts. Some people need months to make the first step out of the cycle. While others, become so paralyzed they need the aid of anti-depressant medication to do so.

Talking and listening without assumptions and judgments is, like you said, the most efficient way to get rid of mistaken, distorted assumptions. These are skills hard to master. But, recognizing our limitations towards them is already a great start! :)

I wish you, @lamouthe and the boys a wonderful weekend ahead!
All the best to you guys!