RE: Caller: How to Convince Trumpist Coworker That Wall is a Bad Idea?
So the proposed wall is actually smaller and covers less of the full perimeter of the US- I’m not sure how that supports your argument. The Berlin Wall was also separating half a city, not two countries. The cost estimates you are citing come from people “guessing” how much immigrants who use public services cost everyone- despite the fact that generally, if they are working here in the US, they are paying taxes and not collecting refunds. So immigrants pay additional taxes that the rest of us do not. They also can’t take advantage of any social programs- food stamps, welfare, medicare- due to the lack of citizenship. Additionally, most illegal immigrants initially came to the us legally, and simply overstay their visas. The vast majority of them are not walking over the border. A wall is an utter waste of funds. It’s not going to fix the stated problem (of illegal immigration) which I disagree is a problem at all, or even the biggest problem the US faces.
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Your initial argument indicated that walls don't work and are to expensive. I only pointed out that history seems to refute that they work regardless of where they are deployed, and the cost savings to the taxpayers based on estimates is substantial. The cost estimates come from people guessing because nobody knows how many "undocumented immigrants " are in the country. btw the same study indicated they contribute an estimated $18b in tax revenue and other economic support. Still a no brainer. Also don't believe that proof of citizenship is required to take advantage of social programs offered in US .