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That too can be an illusion. For it is not really true. It is the fight of SOME RICH people (most of the rich people don't get involved) that is being acted out with other rich people. They don't even do it against the poor people. You give the poor people too much credit here. Those few RICH people that do seem to be always involved view even the poor people as ants or actors. They don't fight against the poor people. They don't have to. They control the poor people utterly.

One of the ways they do that is by also spinning this misdirection and illusion you just stated. It becomes mentally equated to ALL RICH PEOPLE vs POOR PEOPLE and I guarantee you this is far from factual. It instead is a small group of RICH PEOPLE. Of course they will be rich, they've been in power often for many generations. It isn't completely about money either in the traditional sense. Money is but one of their tools, so even in a completely socialist, or communist country they would be able to still act from the scenes in other ways. For all it really takes is keeping us divided and aiming at their puppets.

In your case you perceive two puppets RICH vs POOR. When in reality there are but a few RICH people that not only are manipulating the poor, they also are manipulating their fellow rich people.

For being rich does not grant super intelligence and senses that other people don't have. That means that rich people are just as susceptible to misdirection and manipulation as poor people.

The rich vs poor is another misdirection tactic and divide and conquer. It is a sham.

Policies that profit the rich have a vast higher chance to get enacted then policies that profit the poor. In a Republic that consists of way more poor then rich. Not to mention autocratic countries.

So even is most of the rich don't fight, their interests still get overvalued.

Rich have doubled their income and wealth since 2000. Poor have lost income in the same time. That is not coincidentally.

So even is most of the rich don't fight, their interests still get overvalued.

So?

Does that suddenly make them nefarious, enemies, etc? No.

Attacking a group of people due to the activities of individuals is wrong REGARDLESS of who the group is.

I said (quoted Buffet) there is a fight between rich and poor.

I didn't say they were enemies. That is your interpretation. As is putting me on the poor side.

As is putting me on the poor side.

I didn't see it that way. I am on the poor side too by the way, always have been. :)

I said (quoted Buffet) there is a fight between rich and poor.

Sure... that doesn't mean I can't challenge it.

I didn't say you are an idiot or anything like that. You simply inspired a new train of thought. If you choose to see it as attacking you that is your choice. It was not my intention. I realized a lot of people do see it that way as it explains the entire anti-1% movement in the U.S. and then I realized that is just another form of the same divisionary tactics.

So it was not attacking you. It was being inspired by you.

Very true. How things are structured now that's how its going to be. Its always going to be someone who is rich elected and even if their motivations are true, they will have biases that will affect decisions.

That does not need to be any bias.

Rich just have more opportunities to voice their interests. And can afford to do that.

Is every rich person inherently evil and do you think you got the majority of the poor people on your side in that fight? I rather switch to my main acc, before I continue debating with you ;)

Nearly no one is evil. Which is the real evil thing.
And part of the war on the poor is that they get made to not fight. You are poor? It has to be your fault! You are not flexible enough! You have to learn more! You want too high wages! etc.

Bullshit. The bankers of this world are 100% evil, and the top elite too.. This is a fact, since they are well known to worship baal, human sacrifice and keep slaves.

The average banker is the guy that makes sure the money your employer send to you is actually reaching you. Is that evil?

Banks are not evil too. They in fact were very important (in a positive way) for the increase in production in the last 200 years - that is what capitalism is after all.

But a lot of what happens today at "banks" - speculation - has totally left moral grounds. For which the banks again are not at fault. They got told they have to act this way by neoliberal thinking, which is basically "give the rich more and never think of the poor".
Trickle Down economics is their not working fig leaf.

You don't get it. Sorry. The average bank guy, central banker is an illuminati member, and is luciferian. They sacrifice humans, and enslave humanity, start wars and make weapons.

I stick by my assertion. Rather, I stick by the facts. You can live in a delusion if you want, but fools take their chances.

"Luciferian"?

Isn't that exactly the kind of divisionary term that @dwinblood was warning about in his post?

You are not flexible enough!

I remember someone told me to move to Somalia :P

I think it is unfair to a lot of rich people to put them in a bag with big banks and cooperations. Even if your boss is enriching himself by using you to an unfair price, he is not the enemy. It is the system he and you live in.

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