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I appreciate you have concerns with SBI, but would love for you to meet with the owners of the project...TO see what SBI is about and the community they have there
I don't even know who is the owner of the project, but I can tell you that he/she is hurting my investment.
- Vote selling (you call it sponsoring)
- Delegate and get upvote 8? x your own vote value from delegated SP (classic circle jerk)
- Mass voting on bot comments (this is ridiculous and I won't accept that)
I don't know anything about you, let's say you live in the US and you have a legal gun, then someone comes to your house to take your goods and money away. Wouldn't you pull the trigger?
Steem is a real life, after HF21 every investor have rights and tools to protect own money. This is why I decided to invest 250 - 500 USD weekly in this blockchain.
Oh I hear you. Completely understand. I spent every penny I had and continue to invest in this blockchain. And you have every right to do as you see fit. I respect that about Steem.
The owner of SBI is Joseph Savage. I've met him in real life and he's a good family man. He's literally just trying to get everyone on Steem some 'basic income' thus the entire goal of SBI.
Try reaching out to him, he's a good dude and I'm sure you guys would understand each other if you touched base.
Appreciate the comments and replies. Much appreciated!
Let me tell you one more thing, before HF21 my account was a bidbot! Why? That was the only chance to get same return from SP as bid bot investors had, but right now, there is no need to sell votes or shitposting. I can get nice return from curation and I'm happy with that, but when I see that someone is trying to be smarter than me, I have to act, anyone who cares for this blockchain should act
Completely understandable. You have to protect your investment and you've got a nice chunk of Steem Power here....I hear you, I really do. As much good as HF21 was supposed to do, it changed how we all operated on the blockchain.
I know I sound like a broken record, but thanks for the dialogue. I really do appreciate hearing your side of things :)
"mk" used to run a bidbot. he's just actively fucking up everyone
I can stop downvoting anytime, I can take off all flags anytime (if someone help me to find a script which would do it for me). We just need gentleman's agreement but I never got any comment from steembasicincome
What I would suggest is
I prefer to keep this discussion public, so other groups that working #oldsteem way can learn why they are getting downvoted
Thank you for understanding.
This is absurd. Here are a few attempts we made to talk to you:
https://steempeak.com/contests/@ecoinstant/q188rk (member of my moderator team)
https://steempeak.com/contests/@josephsavage/re-anthonyadavisii-q12rvh (myself on a thread where you responded to him but ignored me)
https://steempeak.com/flagging/@snook/an-open-letter-to-mr-mariuszkarowski (a friend of SBI that tried to reach out via a member of Polish community)
You're basically saying we haven't talked to you at all because you haven't had an official response from @steembasicincome account? Check the comment history- we do very few responses from that account. Most are from @sbi-booster or from me personally.
Your ultimatum is that SBI completely stop all ongoing operations? We have already made many changes to remove features that proved more prone to abuse post-HF21.
#sbi-skip
"mk" used to run a bidbot. he's just actively fucking up everyone
I'm aware of the hypocrisy, but as he certainly is too, I felt no need to call it out.
#sbi-skip
I see, you want to help people, that's why you are receiving money from other people who also want to help. You know what? It doesn't make any sense. If you want to help people, just vote on their posts or send STEEM directly to their accounts, don't ask others for money, don't rape reward pool with delegated steem power
Forget about my suggestions, I see that you are going to to keep your "helping bots" on. Just tell people that with "help" will come little downvote worth $0.025 (usually much less) and they should not worry about it.
I do not mean to jump into your conversation here. I have barely read enough to know exactly what all is going on. And quite frankly you have your stake and I respect the fact you have the absolute freedom to do with it as you wish. I noticed you because you downvoted my son's homeschool tracking post.(I bought SBI for that account.) So anyway, I went looking and now i know why you downvoted it. I would like to thank you for keeping the downvotes relatively small.(actually I'm very thankful for how tiny it is) My reason is twofold.
First, he does all his own homeschool blogs, so the upvotes from SBI are an encouragement for doing a good job,at school and at posting. He is a great kid and is so thankful for whatever he gets.
Secondly, I am in the middle of creating (what I think) is an amazing real world use for our chain. I am currently having the software wrote to allow as many of the 2.3 million homeschoolers worldwide as possible to use as chain as a data storage medium for their homeschooling records. I am using my son's post as a "beta version" to help the developer envision what the posts should look like. If you want, feel free to check out this post I did calling for beta testers, I'll link it at the bottom. It will give a little more insight to the service. The response was low, but I'm a member of a home education discord with several active members and have several real world friends excited about the massive potential this has. (Every homeschooler worries about the potential to loose their kid's records.) We are going to fix that. And hopefully increase Steems value by adding a real world use for our chain and by increasing the daily traffic and usage in a healthy way. I hope you and yours have a wonderful week!!! NEWSTEEM TO THE MOON!!!
https://steemit.com/realworlduse/@johndoer123/a-call-out-to-homeschoolers-unschoolers-i-will-need-beta-testers
Edit: I was raised to use the glob between my ears. So I would never invest into anything more them I could afford to loose. So, be it a scam or not(I truly do not believe it to be.) I will loose nothing, so on that level I'm happy.
This is fantastic idea!
@mmmmkkkk311, okay. So, I have an idea. How about you, since you have major voting power, start supporting those of us who are putting in work here at the very bottom.
SBI has been great for me because people have sponsored me and I have sponsored them. I've made better money this way than relying on someone such as yourself to provide me a little help.
Thus far, I don't see where this is a scam. Please, show us all. I've been scammed before but I'm not seeing the same sort of shit happening with SBI as I did with the other scam artist.
Again, I'm homeless. I wish I had 200-500 bucks to invest. Maybe I would feel like you. I don't know. This is something that I will have to think about.
If you hate SBI so much, what other options do you have for people like me? Yes, I get some help from people but it really isn't enough to get my ass off the street.
I didn't know that SBI supported comments. I can see this as an issue if the comment has little work and thought put into it. That is annoy and I'm on your side with this one. However, if work and thought were put into the comment, there shouldn't be anything wrong with it. Comments can be more valuable than the post itself.
This just seems lame. It isn't like they have been hiding who they are behind the project. Their names are there. Look.
Dude, without us little people writing our posts, there would be nothing for you to invest in. Since my two years' time back here on steemit, many of you at the top have ignored the community's cries for help. Why? Is your greed blinding you from what is possible in the future? Most seem to think so.
Your right, your little downvote isn't that much but the message that you are sending people is not correct, from my point of view. You're not looking at the quality of my work, not taking into account the time it takes to produce the work, and do you even care?
How about you become someone like @curie? We need more support groups like this. The fact that they are one of the only ones is really saddening. @curie keeps people writing; they reward them for the work they put in if it meets some, if not all, of their standards. Trust me, it keeps me on my toes and makes me want to write better knowing that I might get support from them. We need more people doing what @curie is doing. Will you support that intiative?
These are some amazing ideas! I have seen some people who even split to their accounts and have one they use for curating and one they use for controlling spam and such. But i think that if i had that much SP i would feel obliged to upvote some smaller authors who are really doing beautiful or in depth posts. We have a lot of great writers here and they do need support too. Have an awesome week and thanks for offering suggestions along with your complaints. So many will only complain, and not think positively.
Sorry, I don't think it works like that. Steem is not a social service, I don't think it can be a UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME for everyone either
Would you mind at least looking over the discussion we had with our members some time ago?
https://steemit.com/services/@steembasicincome/let-s-talk-about-upvoting-bonuses
We made some changes in response to HF21 already and discussed the pros and cons of some of the other suggestions. It would be a great place to add your own suggestions (and why you think each would be important or would help).
We have put a lot of thought into each aspect of our program design to maximize good, freedom, and community support, while minimizing the potential for abuse.
You issued an ultimatum (cease or be downvoted) with zero research into how our program works and assume that your suggestions are for the good of the chain. If you don't even know how our program works, how can you be so sure that you're in the right?
You've had responses from dozens of SBI supporters asking you to stop your attacks. If nobody has come to your aid and dozens of people have explained their own reasons for supporting and using SBI, how can you be so sure you're in the right?
If your only argument is 'all vote-selling is bad for Steem and should be stopped' then your hypocrisy astounds me and we have no further room for discussion. We can withstand your tax. Can you withstand STEEM going to zero? That's where the virtue signalling downvotes of you and other former bid-bot vote-sellers are driving it.
Leave that blah blah blah crap and beautiful words about supporting for a while. What do you see? I see money.
Let's follow the money.
I just exchanged a couple of hundreds USD for STEEM and powered it up. Yesterday I have done same thing. Now answer 2 simple questions:
If this is real @mmmmkkkk311 …
… it is not hard to find out. His account name is @josephsavage. And it is hard to imagine that he would not be willing to discuss your “beef,” if that is genuinely of interest to you.
As for this …
… there are many, many Steemians who would say the exact opposite. One of them is writing to you now. You are hurting my investment in the Steem blockchain. One in which I have given many SBI shares to the “little people” to provide encouragement to them to keep going. In an attempt to do my small part to build a vitally needed "middle class" here. Without which neither you or I have any investment that is going anywhere. But (continuing) down …
Not truly expecting you are “listening,” I won’t bother to waste any more of my time. Other than to let you know, as the “proud” recipient this morning of your apparent “auto” downvote, you are providing one more reason for me to say I am done with the Steem blockchain …
P.S. Hypocrisy? If you are a businessman, why don’t you sell them? If you are a philanthropist, why don't you give them away?
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Unwanted 'Sponsoring"
Edit.
Wait... So you can even sell sbi shares? Can you burn it too? How?
People are literally giving you money and you don't want it? Huh? Explain how this hurts you, please, @mmmmkkkk311.
"mk" used to run a bidbot. he's just actively fucking up everyone
Anyways, I see now what a fckn scam it is! For 50 STEEM you can get $ 0.1 upvote. WTF? Once again WTF? It must be very profitable scam
Why did you downvote my comment mmmmkkkk311? Then "take it back?"
I don't speak for @gamer00. Presumably, like the rest of us who sponsor others with SBI shares, he was trying to provide you some encouragement. Ask him ...
As for your questions, if you seriously want answers, talk to the SBI people. They will be glad to help you.
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Since you are downvoting this SCAM ALERT, I have to assume you endorse scammers:
https://steempeak.com/scam/@trincowski/a-gift-from-aerochange-com-beware-i-m-99-9999-sure-this-is-a-scam
"mk" used to run a bidbot. he's just actively fucking up everyone
It's really not profitable to anyone, but it serves as encouragement. If that's a scam so be it. I'm not sponsoring people because I want to get rich quick. I'm trying to encourage them to create more good content on Steem.
In my country people says:
the road to hell is paved with good intentions
And you think few tiny votes every now and then in exchange for promoting others on Steem is too much of such good intentions?
[Edit: I forgot, you are punishing (yes you are) even those who receive such tiny votes in order to make everyone stop. Is that just you showing your own good intentions, or what?]
"mk" used to run a bidbot. he's just actively fucking up everyone
Hi @roleerob
Im absolutely ashamed to know that @mmmmkkkk311 is Polish. He is abusing his power and very little can be done to stop such an abuser.
And like you said, he is hurting other people investment. He doesn't create any value at all and at the same time he is forcing many people to power down and quit steemit (increasing steem selling pressure).
Cheers buddy
Piotr
Yes, well I appreciate the sentiment @crypto.piotr, but I wouldn’t take it too hard. There are good people and bad people amongst us all. From the report of others, this person got his personal “profit center” on our Steem blockchain stopped, so he has decided the best response is attacking SBI …
Envy is a powerful shortcoming in people. For destruction …
Overall, a sad example of what can happen and why it is harder and harder for me to find the motivation to have much involvement “in here” …
#sbi-skip
Dear @roleerob
Thank you for your comment and I'm sorry for such a late reply.
I can only hope that you won't give up. I kind of like you :)
ps.
May I ask you for little favour? I'm not sure if I did ask you about it already or not (hope I'm not repeating myself).
Could you please check out also my recent post if you have few min and share your thoughts on questions related to concept of "introducing steem blockchain to businesses":
https://steemit.com/steemleo/@crypto.piotr/my-very-first-trip-to-switzerland-one-of-the-most-crypto-and-blockchain-friendly-place-on-the-planet-earth
Your feedback is always appreciated ;) And I will upvote most valuable comment with 100-200k SP coming from project.hope account.
Yours, Piotr
Hello @crypto.piotr
Ditto. 😉
As for your request, I did glance at your post briefly and helped you in Discord with a bit of editing help. As for the main subject, I don't think I have much to offer at the moment or I would have contributed.
I'll just say here (if you get back to reading this ...) that you appear to have far more confidence in the future of our Steem blockchain than I do. I hope your new job (if I read your post correctly) is to your liking and that your wife enjoys living in Switzerland more vs. Poland.
My attention is too much taken up with your tyrant of a countryman from Poland. If you ever get bored, with nothing to do ... 😉 ... you might want to look in on the Polish community he is supposedly building and do what you can to discourage support of him. He is very destructive, as I most recently heard from a 6-year old boy telling me of his downvoting rampage ...
Hi @roleerob
I didn't get any message on Discord :/
ps. what polish tyrant are we talking about here? I'm not really familiar with Polish community on Steemit (I've only bad experience with my own countrypeople) so I'm not sure if I want to get involved.
Yours
Piotr
? @crypto.piotr
"I didn't get any message on Discord :/"
I will refresh your memory and discuss further in Discord ...
Good morning @roleerob
Would you mind if I take few minutes of your time? (I hope I'm not asking this question to often ;)
Anyway .... together with few core members of project.hope team - we'te trying to promote our recent publication: an article explaining economy behind our non-profit community project build on STEEM blockchain.
Perhaps I could ask you to spare few minutes and check it out and share your feedback with me.
I would absolutely appreciate it a lot. I read all comments and I drop solid upvote on each valuable one.
Link: https://steemit.com/hive-175254/@project.hope/3-ways-of-joining-our-efforts-project-hope-economy-explained
Yours, Piotr
"mk" used to run a bidbot. he's just actively fucking up everyone
Thanks for the info @felipejoys. Explains a lot!
Where do you stand on the topic of bidbots?
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a free economy should dictate the steem token's true value. bidbots should be acceptable. curation would always be more rewarding than using bidbots. it isn't... but only because whales are circlejerking instead of curating.
ironically, their attitude keeps away serious investors who would inform themselves before getting into a scam like this. they also intentionally keep away the masses which would allow steem inc to earn through their ads thanks to good SEO content, which isn't promoted.
Yes, well I can see we agree somewhat @felipejoys. I appreciate the reply. The Steem blockchain post HF
21/ 22 is definitely a different place. In this particular Steemian’s view, neither the pre or post HF21/ 22 version adequately addresses the fundamental problems …#sbi-skip
Yes, the problem is never the system, but the tyrants in control.
Yes, the problem is
Never the system, but the
Tyrants in control.
- felipejoys
I'm a bot. I detect haiku.
recently, a friend of mine who also plays league of legends looked up on google for an ingame item he won. google showed him an old post of mine, which talked about this skin. this was originally supposed to happen all the time by design, but whales tried to turn steem way from it's original design... which is why it's such a failed scam now.
Since you are downvoting this SCAM ALERT, I have to assume you endorse scammers:
https://steempeak.com/scam/@trincowski/a-gift-from-aerochange-com-beware-i-m-99-9999-sure-this-is-a-scam
ha. ha. ha. plausible. but 1st you should admit he is reading or looking up at what he's downvoting. I doubt it, hehe
Of course it's indiscriminate flagging. I was just teasing him. 🙃