RE: IMPORTANT NOTICE TO ALL WHO ARE INVESTIGATING PIZZAGATE HERE ON STEEMIT--
It's a good idea, but i think if it's a 'free-for-all' then the result will be a kind of smaller collaboration to what is already on voat.com
I think what would be more effective is being selective, and vetting shills - unfortunately this is a major problem on all current streams of communication forums (sifting through the misleading).
Anyone can (and has) spend a few hours constructing a diversion, which effectively takes a great deal more time to verify and cross-check. The shills are easy to spot, but nonetheless it is still time consuming.
What we need is a community of highly adept and highly credible and active researchers that work together - such a community takes time to build, and most importantly - is comprised of individuals who can surface new leads and information.
That translates to people that can hack and leak - 4chan is where it lands first - and it is indeed monitored by government agencies. To my understanding, the FBI atleast is not interested in cracking down on 4chan/pol/ - they consider the community valuable.
People suggest that you use 'Tor browser' to mask your IP - and encrypt information to usb when dl. Truth is, much of the paranoia is only justified for people 'on the inside' that are trying to 'leak out'. But if the public "uncovers/hacks" sensitive information, then that acts as a cover for inside whistle-blowers to cite for plausible deniability.
What matters is that once new information is revealed, it NEEDS to circulate fast - people only "suicide" when it is believed the information/damage can be contained by doing such - this is where the blockchain will be most effective - acting as 'intel insurance' for inside informants. i.e. can not be censored. At the moment a heavy reliance is on 'way back machine' archive - as both reddit banned the thread, and voat is vulnerable to being brought down with ddos (as it was hours after reddit went down - https://twitter.com/theonlinemick1/status/801473169093632000).
Great information. I disagree though, at least partially. I don't think we need hackers in order for us to find new leads. The fact that I Ihave found things that it appears no one else has, shows me that that is not the case.
James Alefantis' instagram posts are testimony to the arrogance of these individuals. It is clear that they felt, and perhaps may still feel untouchable, which is why I'm confident that they will have left a lot more out there for us to find. There will be plenty we can uncover from the surface web, without the need for knowledge of coding.
Anything we find and share, will likely end up on voat anyway, and if any hacking is necessary then that will be on those that possess the skills to decide whether or not to put them to use.
I have been unsuccessful in my attempts to create an account on voat. I'm not sure why but, each time I try and sign in it tells me I have entered the wrong username or password. I was thinking that it would be a good idea to have someone relaying information between both investigative hubs, and of course, the chatroom would be open to any non-Steemers who would like to join and help.
Well I kind of see our role (activists/journalists) as making sense of the data that is both leaked and publicly available. Without diverting, 9/11 was moderately uncovered without hack/leaked information - and so many more false flags. But to make the extra step towards justice and prosecution, the standard of evidence is much higher then speculative based information - We didn't need leaks to discern Larry Silversteins massive insurance payout from the fall of the twin towers (that he only insured against 'acts of terrorism' months prior to 9/11) - but if you want to prove how much Mossad was behind it, that will require leaks. All in all, needing leaked/hacked information to prove something really just depends on where crucial information is kept - secured or not.
Human error is what I count on - it's usually the catalyst that undoes criminals. There is a higher degree of arrogance that accompanies power, and it's there arrogance that underestimates the effectiveness of the collective public.
Regarding Voat - i think you can remake another account to sign in with if you feel inclined to do that, from what i recall it does not require/link email verification.
Yes- There have been numerous cases of citizen investigation in recent times that have been utterly inspiring. The policy enforcers are not on our side, and are paid by those that often need investigating, so it's great to see people standing up and doing their job for them. It's a shame that that needs to be the case though..
I agree about human error, though sometimes I have to stop and consider whether these fuckers are even human. I'm not saying that they are reptiles from another planet.. Lol. Just that they seem to be lacking humanity in any
capacity, based on the atrocities they help to perpetrate.
I have tried three times with three different browsers, each time to no avail. I am thinking that perhaps I have some type of browser extension that may be effecting the log in process with voat. I will disable them all and try once again.
Re their arrogance, I remember reading in the past that they have to display things publicly. I can't remember why but it could be a satanic/luciferian thing. Jimmy Savile was the worst case of that
Yes, you're right. I have seen images and video of Saville wearing some T-shirts that were very suggestive and hinted at his abusive nature.
I have always found it to be most peculiar how esoteric symbology is used so often and so blatantly. It's everywhere, and you would think that they must be getting something out of it or they wouldn't take the risk.
For years there have been those who spoke of illuminati and/or satanic symbology being used in music videos. Though I have always researched conspiracy theories, I had a hard time believing that the majority of music artists were flaunting satanic signs and symbols in their videos.
The Wikileaks dumps have revealed to us that even that was true. When I stop to think about why they would be doing this, my mind can only produce two reasons.
Either they are literally drawing power from doing this in some way, or someone wants them to believe that they are. Obviously the first has supernatural implications, so it is a very hard pill to swallow. But, I try to keep an open mind and I'm not ruling anything out.
I know there is a lot out there that we don't understand, and knowledge that has been hidden from us for millennia. I was an atheist for the first 3/4 of my life, but now I am a firm believer that we are the result of intelligent design.
Though I regard myself as a monotheist, I don't ascribe myself to any particular religion because I have always regarded them as mere systems of control. It is however, becoming harder and harder to dismiss the existence of the devil, or at least some powerful and inherently evil force.
Why do so many in positions of great power seem to be worshiping Lucifer and other demonic entities? Either they are worshiping him/them because he/they are real and their positions of power have been acquired and retained through their homage to him/them, or as I said before, someone has conditioned them to believe that is the case.
I probably sound, at the least, a little crazy here, but I'm not asserting anything as fact. I'm just providing you with some of the curiosities that inhabit my mind at times.
I really really really hate to think there is an actual entity called Lucifer. Who knows?
And as for the comment below mine, addressed to me, I can't reply because it's 6 deep but here's what I have to say:
"Scoot, get away from me, be gone! I cannot bear entities like you. "
It seems likely that there are parasitic entities in our matrix to be aware of, such as those which feed off the energy (loosh) generated by trauma. Making a declaration of your sovereignty and revoking any soul contracts you may be entangled in, can be a big step in helping to sever, untie and detach some of those cords and hooks many of us have, but are unaware we're burdened with.
think about several Olympic ceremonies and that disgusting Switzerland Cern ceremony. They spend millions to publicly display this stuff. It must be that they believe it "actualizes" things.
Quantum physics - more people watching something influences its energy. (What the bleep do we know? video)
as for the other question about Lucifer, we know there is light and dark energy in the world. we also know there are ghosts and demons and exorcists. Whatever they choose to call their dark energy source, they can draw power from it. Just as we can draw power from love.
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