RE: Pizzagate - I finally took a deep look and I am disgusted! How can anyone not be outraged by this evidence?
OK, this is getting silly......everyone keeps claiming to have "evidence", yet also appears to have great difficulty presenting any of it. As I'm now feeling a bit "short-changed" I'm going to reply to everyone on this thread one by one until I get to the end. I am a reasonable person, so do your best to convince me of your claims - if you can do this, then you will be able to convince more of the mainstream population, so it's in your's and any potentially abused children's interest to do so. I maintain that I shall remain objective throughout and invite all to give me their best "evidence" or most convincing argument.
OK, firstly, I have dismissed the 1st video on the grounds that at nearly 3 hrs long, it is unreasonable to ask any person you are trying to convince of anything to spend that much of their ATTENTION to watch - things should be presented much more succinctly than that. Secondly, in my view, if you can't present your case/argument yourself in your own words and instead rely on other people's videos to make your case for you, then I'm not willing to engage - it would be a pointless exercise. Please present your case/argument/evidence clearly and concisely and stay on-topic without going down rabbit-holes or stealing ATTENTION. if anyone has any problem with my terms of engagement, then feel free to state your case. You are also of course free to just ignore me, however, I would caution that to continue in the same vein does neither your case nor any potentially abused children any favours in my view.
OK, I moved to 2nd video and do not see what you are seeing, nor is it directly related to "pizzagate"
3rd video - not watching another nearly 3 hour long video titled "Satanism, child sex and murder among the elites" because of reasons already outlined and lack of relevance to "pizzagate".
Sorry, not watching the rest on the grounds that you have already taken far too much of my ATTENTION on irrelevant nonsense and apparently need me to watch around 9 hrs of video to convince me.
i see that you are seeking to deny these things are happening. if your desire to see the evidence were genuine, you would read the posts, and there you would see the evidence. if you are waiting for the body of an actual dead child to come out of your computer screen into your lap, i am afraid you are going to be disappointed.
please, look at the facts, with an eye to the historical contextual pattern, and the people involved, there you will find your evidence. persisting in denial does not make the facts disappear.
Lol......I only asked you where you got the stats from because the "quick Google search" turned into a longish Google search and I couldn't find anything. Either you know where these stats are and from what reliable source you got them from or you don't.....in which case, yet again no actual evidence of anything is provided.
"i see that you are seeking to deny these things are happening."
Wrong - I am seeking any kind of substantiating evidence for the claims being made - this is something I'm definitely not seeing.
"persisting in denial does not make the facts disappear."
How about making some facts appear first?
Your argument that kids go missing and fall prey to paedophiles is common knowledge, is not any kind of news and in no way has anything pertinent to say about "pizzagate". It';s like you accuse someone of a horrendous crime, say murder, then the only "evidence" you can provide is to show that people get murdered all the time - how exactly does that provide any kind of evidence to point the finger at a particular person; it just doesn't does it?
i use "image search" to find charts and graphs. i find it work much better than pouring over the endless reams of data the web represents. once i find what i am looking for i can link from there to do more in depth research. care needs to be taken so it does not lead to bias created from the method of search, but i usually find it a useful place to start.
again i will direct you to look up Dennis Hastert, he is at the nexus of nearly all the scandals, in the USA that i have researched going back 25 years. he is the one that connects many. he is a serial child predator, at least that is what the judge said at his trial, when he was convicted. if you want to know, look into it. i cannot, in a comment on steemit, provide you with the evidence that you do seem to actually want. i have not seen any children actually being raped in front of me. i have, though, seen, too many times, the destroyed lives, of people i know, who have no reason to make such things up. there are also people like Ted Gunderson, former FBI. find anything you can, with him talking about this subject, and branch out investigating from there.
Dennis Hastert, Mark Foley, Jeffery Epstein, Jerry Sandusky, i'll start making a list. i never thought any of this would ever be taken seriously by the general population, because of the people involved being the "powers that be". look into any of these names yourself, and you will find your evidence. trying to get something that will stand up in court, in the comments section of a post on steemit, is not going to yield satisfactory results. do your own investigation.
i am not looking for a witch hunt. the guilty are the only ones i want stopped.
if you want, i can relay to you some of the horrifying stories i've heard over the years, but as i have indicated, this will only amount to hearsay coming from me. i was not victimized directly by this, i guess thanks to parents who seemed overly strict, at the time.
i apologize if i flew off the handle. this subject tends to get right up my nose. sometimes i forget to be kind.
I see, so the graph stats were just a random uploaded image to Google images? Well, I would have to disagree that this is a useful place to start any research. On the contrary, I'd say it's about the least useful way to find information - do you not check your sources, verify whatever the "image" is claiming etc? What if you can't substantiate your claims when asked......it could get sticky?
Anyway, I have no interest in researching your "list" of predatory paedophiles, nor hearing anymore anecdotal stories of how it "goes on" - as it is irrelevant to the "pizzagate" topic of conversation. I don't need to find evidence for any of the above, I'm asking for any actual evidence of the claims made against the particular individuals associated with "pizzagate."
No apologies necessary, I do tend to get up people's noses myself.......I see it as an Art form.....lol.
then good luck ever getting any research done on this enormous thing we call the web. i use any tool i can to narrow down the possibilities. i would recommend starting over. learn deductive reasoning and go from there.
of course, corroboration is necessary. the image search is just a start. trying to find a single fish in the ocean is nearly impossible. having a picture of the fish is not much more, but it is a start.
OK then, having done all this research and corroborated all the evidence and used all your powers of deductive reasoning........you still can't provide a link from anywhere on this enormous thing we call the web, nevermind a reliable source to substantiate your stats chart?
Lol......just unbelievable....
don't care anymore. i thought you were serious and not wasting my time. do your own learning or not. i have better, more productive conversations to have. there is enough information right here on steemit to start. go to the pizzagate tab and start reading. leave me be, or i will mute you. bye.
Lol, well looks like another one took their ball in when asked for anything to substantiate their claims. Well done guys, you're really doing a great job of convincing others that you have absolutely nothing of any substance to substantiate any of your claims. Mute away........lol
helping people learn is the point. not trying to spoon feed dumb asses who don't care or can't learn. if you feel some kind of success at making people think that you are a worthless idiot, then congratulations, i think you are a worthless idiot, and the world will be better off when you are gone. please, do hurry it along.
I think that last comment speaks volumes to others about yourself, rather than me. Well done.
court records and convictions don't impress professional doubters. he wants someone to dump a dead kid in his lap with james alefantis' fingerprints on the teeth, or he's not interested in actually learning or knowing anything. i think he's here to sow dissension. he flatly refuses to do any of the work himself and denies anything you say without looking.
So, just ad-hominem attacks left is it.......go back to your conspiracy theory videos then. It is clear you have nothing to say.
And this is why you can't see the truth. Work on your manipulated mind first! Good luck
Lol.....the hypocrisy is gob-smacking.......watch 9 hours of conspiracy theory videos in order to not have a manipulated mind, no evidence required........brilliant.