The cultural meaning of "pizzagate".
I always hated the binary way of reading news. My grandmother experienced the propaganda during the WWII, so she had a simple rule to read news, which she passed to me: "when everything is clear, you got fake news". Which is true: fake news are easy to spot: when everything is clear, when evil and good are easy defined, when there is a sharp edge between evil, good, right, wrong, heroes and villains, then you are being misinformed.
Which meant, on the eyes of my grandma , some kind of propaganda.
I follow the same rule today, and I can see how good it is (which means propaganda methods never changed since the WWII) , so I am thankful to my grandma. Anyhow, also this way to say "propaganda/truth" is too binary. May books were not telling the truth (Romeo and Juliet never existed, by example) , still they had valuable information to share, or at least a message to propagate.
So, now, imagine pizzagate is a fiction book written by anyone. Or a movie , telling a fictional story. Still, what is the message this fiction delivers? Is there a metaphor around it? What the pedophiles, the satanic rituals, are symbols for, in this fiction, by example?
So let's start from the message. If a pizzagate was a romance book written by an author, let's say a chinese guy, Mr. Four Chan, what was the message he wanted to tell to the reader? I would read it like that:
"The elites are abusing the young generations in a disgusting way, to fulfill some horrible appetite, under the inspiration of a evil ideology".
Here the symbols are, more or less , clear:
- The babies being abused are a symbol for the new generations: no future, no real job, less income, unemployment, no more rights at work, and so on. The financial elites make slaves of them (think to people with a bachelor working at McDonald's or Wal Mart, for a few bucks , and still slave of a student loan).
- Satanism in the pizzagate plot represents some horrible ideology, which we could call "globalism" or "turboliberism", which makes all that elites to behave the same and to agree on their plans.
- Pedofilia is a the symbol of some horrible appetite, which could represent by an insatiable greed of money, an insane lust for luxury , power, fame. Which the idea people has of "the elites".
If we go reading the pizzagate in that way, it appears clear why people will not abandon it: is like asking people into romance to abandon Romeo and Juliet. Sure, the story is not reflecting facts, but it reflects their view of facts.
Until people thinks that "The elites are abusing the young generations in a disgusting way, to fulfill some horrible appetite, under the inspiration of a evil ideology" the story behind pizzagate is true, no matters how fake it is: it represents the idea people has of the elites, regardless of the fact is true or not, as much as Romeo&Juliet represented an idea of love, regardless of the fact they never existed.
This is important to understand this kind of fake news and their diffusion: a fake news is working until it reflects the idea people already has. It is just a fictional story, full of symbols, with the aim to explain the truth in simple words.
The most of people which believes the pizzagate was already convinced that "The elites are abusing the young generations in a disgusting way, to fulfill some horrible appetite, under the inspiration of a evil ideology", now this story just confirms in full what they were thinking.
Now, let's go back one step and check: is it true or false that ""The elites are abusing the young generations in a disgusting way, to fulfill some horrible appetite, under the inspiration of a evil ideology"?
As a matter of facts, it is very hard to proof this is false. Young generations are abused. This 1% of people which has everything has "everything their fathers hoped their sons could have". Everything my generation worked for, hoping it was for our sons, is now concentrated in the hands of some "elite". (Which , btw, seems not to have such a talent to deserve the name "elite": the average finance man is often ignorant, dull, gross, and very average in term of IQ, by example.)
So the pizzagate (as like many of the stories we see now) is fake news. The problem is, those fake news are based on a true story:
This is why they are getting popular and popular everyday: they do not need to be true. They only need to be based on a true story, where a true story is just a (social|political|cultural) truth people is persuaded about.
The pizzagate just reflects what people thinks about young people and elites:
The elites are abusing the young generations in a disgusting way, to fulfill some horrible appetite, under the inspiration of a evil ideology"
Until people will keep thinking that, the pizzagate will never end, no matters how many evidence you can put of the table of pizzagate being fake news.
I view news similarly. I'd say it has changed since WW2. It has become more pervasive and they've gotten better at it. The concept was in its infancy during WW2 and was used by us, Germany, UK, etc.
I believe it is worse today...
I am crazy busy right now with you know what coming right on time, that I have nothing to say except that I am posting and upvoting every single post in this category I can until it gets "accidentally erased"
Show me the evidence it is fake news. In short there is none....other than obviously crazy stuff that paid trolls put out. Like the potential connections with ufos in turkey. Its put there to serve as reinforcement for already manipulated views that media primes us to accept as our stances prior to exposure of the horrendous acts.
There is however quite a bit of evidence pointing to the contrary.
Psychopaths do not think like normal people. These people are psychopaths. You are not so you seem to be having a hard time accepting the potential realities that stand before us.
Always remember, throughout historu and indeed many of the world's countries still see sex with children as ok. If you think a global network doesnt have
A) the monetary incentive
B) the incentive to use it for blackmail of politicians and other powerful "elites"
C) plenty of historical evidence that child sex trafficking, abuse, rape...etc is the exception throughout history as opposed to the rule...
You should really think again.
We deserve the truth though...and advocate we search until we find it.
To proof this is a fake is quite easy, just proceed by absurd.
Imagine this is true.
If this crime was true, whoever has evidence MUST file a report to the closer police station. This is mandatory, and I remember you that hiding evidences of a crime is a crime itself. So, if YOU had ANY evidence of this happening, you MUST have filed a report to the police.
Unfortunately, NONE of you (neither other buffoons into the "pizzagate") has filed a report to any police station, with the evidence of this crimes.
Since there is no evidence it happened, then it is a fake news.
Of course, I 'm happy to see when and where you, or any other buffoon claiming pizzagate is true, has reported any "evidence" to the police.
Also please notice, that hiding evidences of a crime is a crime itself: if you have ANY evidence of this happened, either you report to the police, or you accomplice the crime itself.
So, it is a fake news because there are no evidence, and the proof there are no evidence is that neither you neither other pizzagate buffoons are reporting
anything to the police.
QED.
You assume that the police are not in on it at the top echelons of police hierarchy. Many people can go and report things to corrupt police stations...and guess what? If that report is never filed...then it never happened. Heck...going to file a police report as a victim might be extremeley dangerous in such instances...
And if you think corruption doesn't exist in the halls of our police stations, you are naive and wasting my time.
Instead of calling people buffoons, think with your head. You think that Pizzagate has no evidence and the ONLY thing you point to is that there arent police reports?? As if children who are drugged and shipped around the world for elite sex parties will ever even get the chance to go to the police...
Come on man.
P.S. Pizzagate is about finding evidence! So rather than put it down as fake news...PROVE it is fake news. And I dont mean prove it using criteria that proves absolutely nothing (i.e. "no police report filed").
Bullshit. Basically you are trying to say that a conspiracy which involves the police is the evidence another conspiracy exists. Which is pure bullshit: you cover the conspiracy of pizzagate using the conspiracy of the police, and when I will ask why NONE OF YOU has EVEN TRIED to report this to the police, you will mention the conspiracy of taxi drivers which didn't bring you to the police. And when I ask you why you didn't got there by walking, then you will invent the conspiracy of shoes makers, which made your shoes to break when walking to the police station. And so, and so , and so.... conspiracy after conspiracy.
If the only way you have to cover the fact none of you reported anything to the police is that another conspiracy is affecting police, then the only answer is "bullshit". Pure bullshit.
Show me a single person which TRIED to report this to the police , and was rejected. Only one.
The only thing we need to decide about pizzagate itself is , if it is more ridiculous or pathetic.
And worst, you say:
"P.S. Pizzagate is about finding evidence! " , which basically means YOU HAVE STILL NO EVIDENCE. Nevertheless, you are SURE this is true. So first you are sure this is true, and AFTER you look for "evidences", of course with no help from the police.... because of another conspiracy theory involving it, where of course you are still trying to find evidences. Bullshit. Cazzate. Blödsinn! Merde.
Ridiculous. Simply ridiculous. If we forget the cultural meaning of this fake news and we go to the fake news itself, pizzagate is just the new hobby for unemployed retards. How you waste your time on reddit while posting from the free wifi in McDonald's, trying to convince yourself that being unemployed is a result of a conspiracy and globalism, while it is just the result of incompetence , stupidity and underachievement.
I like how u use basically so often out of lack of detailed description.
You assume a great deal about me which tells me you dont do research before opening your mouth...otherwise you might actually know my stance.
Your hubris and ignorance are at least entertaining.
Prove to me that chold sex trafficking rings dont exist--and that they dont make in the hundreds of billions per year. Then I will stop considering conversations with u a waste of my time.
Sorry. Wish you could talk without just underlining everything with attacks disquised as debate. The only reason i do not send you links...is that it is literally as easy as looking up "child sex trafficking statistics" on the web browser of your choice to find such a mountain of "reputable" evidence in seconds.
What I assume about you is not the topic. Second, the fact rings of pedophiles exists doesn't means any of your dreams about pedophile rings (like the pizzagate) are true. Please stop with stupid fallacies , nobody is a stupid here.
If saying that existence of pedophile rings proofs that ANY pedophile ring you can dream exists, right now I can dream of a pedophile ring having you as a member , and then exists. You would not like that, I'm afraid.
Those logical fallacies are too easy to debunk, "is this the best you can do, George"?
Wow these Jtrig posts are well written. I felt touched by this. You didn't even feel ashamed dragging your grandma into it. This post is highly manipulative, non factual and paid for by the Government! how did this end up on top?! report please
Well, you know. The government paid me $50.000 to write this post, regardless of the poor english (not my native language). So , happy to know it is "manipulative": this will lead me to a promotion into the NWO ranks. And a bonus, of course. Thanks for the endorsement.Of course, I cannot make it drink to a smart guy like you, because if you are that intelligent to believe the pizzagate, then for sure you cannot be fooled. So I confess, I work for the government and they paid me $50.000 for writing this article.
Minor errors would add to the authenticity, it wouldn't be about making it perfect. But you clearly don't want to have a conversation so why don't you just do something else with your time. No ad hominem from me! Inform yourself people, think critically don't let other people do the work for you! They might not have the same motivation as you!
Of course I do not want to discuss. I am part of the elite, member 9ec3c1a0-b610-11e6-b004-00212875a4f6 . And of course, I do this job because I am well paid to fuck you honest american workers hard. I am sure , by example, thanks to me a mexican illegal immigrant stole your place as an executive manager of Merryll Lync, which you deserve for sure, just because you are american. This is because you deserve the best not because of achievements or competence: you deserve to be "middle class" just because you have an american passport. No achievements, no studies, middle class income for free: this is the real meaning "nationalism". And we stole your place into the middle class, which you deserved because of your passport. And I am well paid for that: why should I have a conversation?
It's funny how you follow the leaked Jtrig Instructions guilt tripping me changing the subject etc. not wasting any more time with your pathetic ass. I'm not even American, lol.
Is not funny. I am well paid for that. And, you're american, if we just want: it is just a matter of the USA invading your country, at the end.