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RE: A Guideline Reminder from the Church of Piglet

in #piglet6 years ago

There will always be amoral opportunists, or evil people, as some say, spoiling the fun of the Righteoustm. There is no point in trying to fight such people, as new ones will inevitably crawl out of the woodwork, but it could well be helpful to take away their toys and tools.

This would, of course, also do away with the righteous uses of delegations, such as yours, which would be a shame.

Still, if the net effect of delegations on Steemit is negative, which we think it is, there would be a net positive effect on Steemit if we fork out delegations, however reluctant we would be to see them go.

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Before we had delegations, we had a lot of trails, which were also abused for self-voting.

Considering the fact, that some of the best projects at Steemit rely on delegations, like utopian.io, dLive or sndbox, I just don't think, that you can take it away without harming the whole Steem ecosphere.

I also think, that delegations were invented because of the fact, that the Steemit Inc. didn't want to pay the account creation and bandwidth fees for thousands of sock-puppet accounts. Through delegations, they are able to remove the delegations, as soon as the accounts have made enough Steem by themselves.

I think, instead of removing delegations, we should fight against bidbots / define clear rules under which they are allowed. And we should think of and propose a delegation model, that has similar advantages, but is more transparent and more abuse resistent.

That would be great, but we doubt it is possible to get rid of bidbots, or even curtail them, without getting rid of delegations. It is just a matter of what helps/hurts Steemit more overall. Opinions will vary, as they should.

We just need to create a "forbid-bot", which accumulates enough SP to flag bidbot votes ;-)

But seriously: We need to establish an incentive to quit using those services. Imagine, what would happen, if the use of bidbots/selfvotes would lower the reputation of the users? Or the other way around, if we would create a token to reward all people, that deny making use of these kind of votes?

That certainly wouldn't stop the abusers to use sockpuppets for their evil business, but maybe they would start to think about it.

@nonameslefttouse has already put forward a very good idea of how to go about it, but I don't think it is getting much traction.

You can read about it here and in some of his larger comments, but it is too hot here to track them all down for you. The Church of Piglet sorely needs air-conditioning.

Haha, same thing here. It‘s hard to think, while it’s so hot. But thanks for the link. I will certainly read through the post and comments and get back to you. Cheers!

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